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Date:      Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:41:35 -0700
From:      Tech Valley Internet - Tony Kivits <tony@techvalley.ca>
To:        Christopher Cowart <ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: /dev/random in jails
Message-ID:  <7.0.1.0.0.20070718204749.01c146a8@techvalley.ca>
In-Reply-To: <20070719034250.GB27888@rescomp.berkeley.edu>
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At 08:42 PM 7/18/2007, Christopher Cowart wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 08:34:21PM -0700, Tech Valley Internet - 
>Tony Kivits wrote:
> > At 07:32 PM 7/18/2007, Christopher Cowart wrote:
> > >On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 06:30:50PM -0700, Tech Valley Internet -
> > >Tony Kivits wrote:
> > >> I am attempting to run portions (if not all) of the software called
> > >> HSphere inside of jailed subsystems of FreeBSD.  I am able to create
> > >> the jails no problem but the devices /dev/random and /dev/urandom are
> > >> not created automatically in the jail despite the fact that a handful
> > >> of other devices are mounted correctly when the jail is created.
> > >>
> > >> Is there a specific reason for these devices not being created in a
> > >> jail or is there a way to create these devices so that they will be
> > >> available inside a jail?
> > >
> > >We run bind instances in FreeBSD jails. This is how we get /dev/random:
> > >
> > >| # /etc/devfs.rules:
> > >| [devfsrules_thin_jail=100]
> > >| add include $devfsrules_hide_all
> > >| add include $devfsrules_unhide_basic
> > >
> > >| # /etc/rc.conf:
> > >| jail_cachingdns_devfs_enable="YES"
> > >| jail_cachingdns_devfs_ruleset="devfsrules_thin_jail"
> > >
> > Thanks Chris,
> >
> > So if my jail is called "cp", the only thing that I would have to
> > change from your scripts would be replace to replace "cachingdns" 
> with "cp"?
>
>Yes. Are you configuring the jail via /etc/rc.conf already? Are you
>using the rc script /etc/rc.d/jail to start your jails?
>
>My complete config from /etc/rc.conf is:
>
>| # Enable jails
>| jail_enable="YES"
>| jail_list="cachingdns"
>|
>| # Caching-nameserver jail
>| jail_cachingdns_hostname="ns1.example.com"
>| jail_cachingdns_ip="192.0.2.15"
>| jail_cachingdns_interface="bge0"
>| jail_cachingdns_rootdir="/var/jails/caching-dns"
>| jail_cachingdns_exec="/usr/local/sbin/named"
>| jail_cachingdns_devfs_enable="YES"
>| jail_cachingdns_devfs_ruleset="devfsrules_thin_jail"
>
>You can replace cachingdns with cp or whatever else you want. You can
>also create multiple jails with different names.
>
>I don't know if you're following the typical FreeBSD jail documentation
>which gives you a complete FreeBSD installation inside the jail. Given
>that I only need to run named, I have not done that.
>
>Are you trying to run a complete FreeBSD install that allows user logins
>inside your jail? Or are you simply trying to jail a single process? My
>example above jails the single process named, and does not have an OS
>install inside the jail's root.
>
>--
>Chris Cowart
>Lead Systems Administrator
>Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT
>UC Berkeley
>

Thanks Chris,

I am doing a complete OS inside the jail and am starting it through 
the rc.conf.

I have modified the devfs.rules so that they are now passing random 
and urandom as devices.  But the installation software is still 
reporting that /dev/random is not working properly.  Do you know of a 
way that I can test /dev/random to see if it is actually working?

Thanks again,

Tony 




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