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Date:      Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:44:16 -0800
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        Annelise Anderson <andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu>
Cc:        Phillip Salzman <psalzman@gamefish.pcola.gulf.net>, Open Systems Networking <opsys@mail.webspan.net>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: X desktop contest? + Desktop Env 
Message-ID:  <7819.910633456@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:57:25 PST." <Pine.BSF.3.96.981109094722.19667A-100000@andrsn.stanford.edu> 

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> Nope, you should have kept the original deadline, given away the
> prizes you promised, and moved on.

That would have been silly, however, since we'd only received 2 valid
entries and neither of them was something I'd have even published.

The goal of the contest was to get better default themes for FreeBSD's
out-of-box configuration, as you'll hopefully recall, and we never
received anything for the contest which had even the remotest hope of
qualifying for this.  I think to even call the first two entries
"entries" is a real stretch since they were more experimental "what do
you guys think of this?  something along these lines?" material than
anything else and it would probably be more correct to call them
"attempts."

Perhaps if we'd continued the contest for another 6 months, we'd
have eventually collected 3 entries which merited any sort of prize
but by then I also suspect that everyone would have forgotten just
what the hell we were doing it for. :-)

Seriously, it may look bad to admit it but the fact is simply
indisputable that FreeBSD's interest in the desktop contest was
marginal to non-existent and everyone had MORE than enough time to get
their entries in, even before the first suspension.  The deadline was
set 3 months in advance of the first announcement and I didn't exactly
see a rush for people to get their entries in.

> It is astonishing to me that FreeBSD continues to ship with a two
> default shells that are not good for interactive use and an out-of-date
> window manager, and remains relatively difficult to get up and running
> in critical areas, specifically graphics, printing, sound, and communica-
> tions.

Not so astonishing - it's quite clear by these results that the number
of people who actually CARE about this must be very small indeed.

:-)

- Jordan

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