Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 08:58:27 -0600 From: Dan Allen <danallen46@airwired.net> To: Jim Pingle <lists@pingle.org> Cc: Wesley Shields <wxs@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Content Message-ID: <7BDBF15A-A8E2-424C-9988-043B6A70F541@airwired.net> In-Reply-To: <48BFEF26.2070405@pingle.org> References: <35445338-D597-4FE2-996F-DEC7BE986741@airwired.net> <20080903191454.GA15376@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <DC1CA362-09F3-4D85-BE20-776A133FD3D6@airwired.net> <48BF23D3.2070509@brianwhalen.net> <B1F9E128-A66F-4A5A-BBA1-A016F4ECDF77@airwired.net> <20080904134305.GC1188@atarininja.org> <48BFEF26.2070405@pingle.org>
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On 4 Sep 2008, at 8:22 AM, Jim Pingle wrote: > The CD installs are great for me, and have worked well for years. > Personally, I install, update to -STABLE from a local cvsup mirror, > then use > an updated ports tree or install packages remotely. The packages on > CD are > out of date practically from the moment they are placed there, so I > rarely > use them. The only package I regularly used was cvsup-without-gui, > which has > been replaced by csup in the base system. Okay, so how about for packages on the base CD: * cvsup-without-gui (I also always use this) * rsync * perl Then, since packages are always out-of-date, why not just skip the DVD and use the internet with a couple of check boxes at the end of the install, the way ports is treated now, that are just calls to pkg_add - r for: * KDE * GNOME * Firefox * ... whatever else are the most popular add-ons Fewer bits to be delivered via CD/DVD, and things are always up-to-date. > Also, is not Ubuntu a "downstream" release of Debian, much like > FreeSBIE and > PC-BSD are "downstream" of FreeBSD? If you want to compare apples to > apples, > you might investigate those choices a little closer. Touche. I had forgotten this. Perhaps this is why I was able to crash Ubuntu so quickly yesterday... ;-) I hope everyone realizes that I am not trying to "de-server" FreeBSD. I just remember how daunting it was for me to get X setup when all I wanted to use was a web browser when I was new to it all. The early BSD releases had a simple check box to add X support and it all just worked. That was COOL. That is what I am hoping to get back into BSD. I do not want to spill onto DVDs, remove the sources, get rid of command prompts, or force systems to have X.org on them... Dan
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