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Date:      Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:48:05 +0300
From:      datora tehnika <datora@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   not-yet-a-newbie : DL (ftp?) iso image help question
Message-ID:  <7d672918050706144877ed83b2@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi folks --

Been reading through the email list archives & haven't seen this yet
(in last 90 days or so).

I think this is the best list for me to be on .. it seems to be for
general questions, including raw newbie pointers.  Since I have failed
to DL the ISO's by myself, I don't even qualify as a newbie (yet).=20
With your help, I'd like to be.

I'd really like to play with freeBSD & begin my learning curve.=20
Currently I'm trapped on a Win 2K system with an unstable cable modem
connection in Riga, Latvia.  By gawd/dess, I am SO READY to NEVER see
win boot again .. in any flavor!

I want very, VERY much to stop using windows & am aware this will be a
process for the next year & two, not an ''event'' this week.

So, I'm trying to DL the ISO images & have been having a very
frustrating past three days.  Very minor fluctuations in the local
connection (including power blips) keep wrecking the ISO image DL via
web browser.  I'd like very much to use ftp (unless there is something
better?), but have been unable to connect.  Am using winsock ftp 95,
but all attempts at connection are being refused (at main
ftp.freebsd.org site & various european ftp mirrors).

What I see as my need:  how do I connect ?  Anon keeps being rejected,
I have not been able to locate ftp instructions at freebsd.org
website; only web browser links.  The ftp links (e.g.
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org etc etc) don't work in WSFTP_95.  It is
recommended that I use FTP software w/ resume function, but no such
instructions haave I seen.  Searching various site keeps turning up
butkis.

URL with detailed newbie instructions ..? PLZ !!  Does such a thing exist?

I'm generally pretty clueful if I have basics to read, but am not a
trained IT pro .. so a lot of lingo is pretty obscure until I can
locate various definitions (don't suppose there's an acronymn
dictionary ..?).  If I have a place to bootstrap from, I can get up to
speed .. but I feel like I've been dumped into 40 meters of open ocean
while looking for the wading pool.  Does a wading pool exist ..?

I've had these DL'z broken about a score of times now from german,
swedish, estonian & lithuanian mirror sites & wasted most of this week
(it's a Riga problem with power & interent connection stability; we
rarely get three hours without some small break in service here for
several reasons).  I have several goals I'd like to accomplish with
freeBSD, but have not been able to get the ISO's so I can burn the
CD's & get first installs attempted.

So, using a win2K platform to begin the bootstrap into the
BSD-universe, how to ftp? Or is there something better ..?  I can burn
an ISO to CD, not DVD.  Financial resources are limited, and buying
books in english is a fantasy option here .. I require on-line
resources.  Anyone familiar with east eurpoean economics will
understand that $10 USD is a small fortune here, so please refrain
from suggesting options that reqire money; I need it to eat.

Some backround : from 93 through 99 I was a solaris user in a
university environment, but have forgotten most of it 2000 through
present as I took various jobs where winNT/2K was required.  Have
dabbled in linux & *BSD a few times, but it's been three years since
last attempt, so there's a lot of new to learn and old to re-learn.

I've got a curve ahead off me, please be patient, but I'm not real
interested in anything after win2K, & linux doesn't seem to be worth a
major investment of my time.  I'd like to get a BSD power-desktop
going so I can learn and migrate over the next six to eight months &
move to running BSD servers ... still up in the air if it will be
free- or netBSD or both.  Dreaming of getting web & file & email
servers running with strong firewall protection; strong graphics &
audio capability, not interested in 3d or video rendering.

The Big Picture concept is to get two multi-boot i386 systems (one
dual-P-III Tyan MoBo & other AMD 1800+ K7VTA3 MoBo) going that run
*BSD as the primary OS with win2K, win98 & linux (probably gentoo) as
2ndary options on multi-boot with legacy software emulated.

BUT, first ... Why is the anon ftp via ftp software not working ???  I
obviously must have resume capability ... I keep losing connection
between 200 & 300 MB for each image for various reasons (this email
panic help request generated after isoCD1 failed at 500 mb on third
attempt)..  grrrrrrr .... <bites chunk out of keyboard>.

Have tried logging into about 20 different ftp servers & various
directories using ''anon'' ''anonymous'' ''public'' and my email
address in various user ID's & password combo's.  All have failed.=20
What is the magic combo, please?  And, is there a reference URL for
instructions w/ required details?  &, how _should_ I have been able to
find it?  Very frustrating that such information was not provided with
the advice to use FTP ...

I'd be happy to RTFM if I had any idea of which manual & which page(s)
I need to begin this.

Of course, your reward will be about another 50 newbie questions from
me.  Feel free to flame me out at your convenience, so long as you
please provide URL's with said flames.

;-)

THANKYOU !

  --  datora
serfing the stream electric



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