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Date:      24 Nov 1999 17:17:39 -0800
From:      Matt Braithwaite <matt@braithwaite.net>
To:        Brad Karp <karp@eecs.harvard.edu>
Cc:        matt@braithwaite.net, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: STRIP (was Re: richochet modems)
Message-ID:  <86k8n74bf0.fsf@zildjian.hq.alink.net>
In-Reply-To: Brad Karp's message of "Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:53:07 -0500 (EST)"
References:  <199911250053.TAA11655@dominator.eecs.harvard.edu>

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On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:53:07 -0500 (EST), Brad Karp <karp@eecs.harvard.edu> said:
> 
> HUMR, of course, works mobile-node-to-Internet-gateway *and* mobile-node-to-
> mobile-node.

Right.  STRIP does this too, but it's a kludge:  a central node with a 
known hardware address has to be the ``ARP server'' for everybody
else.

By the way, have you noticed that the new radios use a different
address format?  They're ##-####-#### rather than ####-####.  The
Linux STRIP driver doesn't deal well with this, and I haven't updated
mine either.

> STRIP isn't *quite* a PPP substitute, even when used as a single hop from a
> mobile node to an Internet gateway. PPP can assign "pseudo" link level
> addresses to either side of a link, without either side knowing any sort
> of "MAC address" for the other. STRIP requires configuration of MAC addresses
> for the two sides of the link into an ARP table.

Oh, yeah, I meant something more approximate, namely that STRIP works
pretty well if all you want to do with your radio is talk to the
Internet.

> You don't need STRIP to do PPP--you can "dial" the MAC address of
> the other modem, and get a reliable byte stream and *literally* run
> PPP over it. So if you know the MAC addresses, you don't need the
> STRIP code at all.

Sorry, can you explain that a little more?  Are you saying that given
any two radios, you can set up a reliable byte stream between them
using AT commands?  

Maybe I'm just not understanding what you're saying here.  


-- 
Matt Braithwaite                        Here in my car, I can only receive.


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