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Date:      Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:13:05 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Joe Greco <jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
To:        gpalmer@freefall.cdrom.com (Gary Palmer)
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.org, jkh@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: wcarchive down
Message-ID:  <9504201613.AA10822@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
In-Reply-To: <19451.798358087@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Gary Palmer" at Apr 19, 95 11:08:07 pm

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> In message <199504200518.WAA03907@geli.clusternet>, "Russell L. Carter" writes:
> >This is a helluva commitment to FreeBSD, might be messy to begin with but
> >will likely root out many of those hard to find bugs right quick, with long
> >term benefits for the community. 
> 
> And in the meantime, every time wcarchive goes down, Walnut Creek's name
> get's slightly muddier. We were origionally waiting for 2.1 to come out, and
> be properly tested, etc, etc, before even thinking of touching wcarchive,
> but it spamming it's /dev/*sd* entries well enough so that we can't even
> re-mount the root filesystem read-write kinda forced our hands.
> 
> Yes, it'll force a lot of obscure bugs into the open, but debugging wcarchive
> isn't easy as we don't normally have any console access...

Then maybe it's time to ARRANGE for console access.

As I recall, somebody recently arranged for serial consoles under -current.
This works; I tried it.  I spent money on hardware which ultimately will
centralize console control for my own little flock of FreeBSD systems.

As I also recall, I offered a 386sx/16 at one point in the past to "the
Cause".  This machine can be outfitted with a little extra circuitry to
provide a hardware reset output.  I will donate a 2-port 16550 card for this
box, and one for wcarchive, if need be, and a cable.  You then wire the
serial ports together, and the 386sx/16 has console control over wcarchive.
The 386sx/16 can reset wcarchive.  From this perspective, you can do
ANYTHING to wcarchive that does not require physical hardware muckymuck.

The 386sx/16 in question has already been verified to fit within the
minimalistic space available down at Barrnet.

IF there is still interest, *I* am still willing to provide this machine.
AND a cheap network card.  MAYBE even memory and a hard drive (i.e. whole
ball of wax).  IF it will make wcarchive maintenance easier!  This is almost
a drop-in solution!

But SOMEBODY has gotta say "O.k., it's time to take advantage of this fool
who's willing to give up a machine for free".  :-)  wcarchive has been
*extremely* useful to all of us.  I consider it an "essential" resource.
Do we have any takers?

(Dammit, I have very little time to do software hacking and the like.  But
I'd like to "contribute" to the FreeBSD effort in some manner!)

... Joe

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