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Date:      Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:29:43 -0800
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
To:        dyson@iquest.net
Cc:        bpechter@shell.monmouth.com, brett@lariat.org, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Swan song 
Message-ID:  <9647.922472983@zippy.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:19:46 EST." <199903261519.KAA01629@y.dyson.net> 

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You know, John, this invective about "boneheaded marketing" is
starting to piss me off, and mostly because I never got spit in the
way of logistical support from you when it comes to marketing this
product - you talk a good fight, but when it comes time to actually
"fight" you run away, citing a lack of ability at writing or speaking
or, if you're feeling especially cagey, the fact that you "can't talk
about your work."

That's all pure bunkum, however, in light of the fact that you don't
need to violate a single Oracle NDA to give a paper at OSDI or the
USENIX technical conference on what you've done with FreeBSD's VM
system, for example, or to write about it for Dr. Dobbs Journal if
you're feeling less inclined to face the crowds.  Either way, it's
something that a lot of people have asked for and a frequent criticism
of the FreeBSD project that nobody will either document or talk
publically about the "behind the scenes" work that goes on in
FreeBSD's design and implementation.  If not you, who else?  What
about all this "G2" stuff you're working on, where's the PR campaign
for that?  I haven't gotten so much as a single _white paper_ out of
you, John, and as far as I'm concerned you haven't got one shred of
"moral authority" when it comes to judging our PR efforts in public
like you have.

Either start putting up here or confine your barking to a topic in
which you've actually shown yourself willing to directly contribute.
To do otherwise only pisses those people who *ARE* attempting to do
something, anything, regardless of whether anyone else thinks it's
"enough" or not.  At least we're doing something tangible, a
characteristic you yourself would do well to emulate before you fire
off your next quiver of arrows in this forum.

- Jordan


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