Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:32:56 -0500 From: "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak@execpc.com> To: Dan Nelson <dnelson@emsphone.com>, ken@mui.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Interne Message-ID: <980409233256.ZM381@execpc.com> In-Reply-To: Dan Nelson <dnelson@emsphone.com> "Re: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Interne" (Apr 9, 10:45pm) References: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> <199804092140.PAA04541@lariat.lariat.org> <199804092230.MAA04112@rocksalt.mui.net> <19980409224502.A15297@emsphone.com>
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On Apr 9, 10:45pm, Dan Nelson wrote: > Subject: Re: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Interne > In the last episode (Apr 09), ken@mui.net said: > > > > Once I got it, a few things I noticed. Linux support is awesome in > > many ways. If you have a question, simply go to the irc. There's > > tons of people always there, always helpful. > > > > That's one major difference. There's very little presence on the > > FreeBSD side (on the irc). > > /me checks his IRC logs.. No-one from *.mui.net has joined #FreeBSD in > the last year.. I'm in #FreeBSD on efnet most days, and it's been > averaging around 60 people, up from ~40 last year. A few of them are > usually willing to answer questions, although we sometimes get tired of > PPP questions.. I go for odd compiler or hardware problems, myself. > > > Newsgroup support via linux is also pretty good. FreeBSD doesn't > > seem to have much there. > > comp.unix.freebsd.* gets a couple hundred posts a day. Visible enough > for me. > > > 6- Linux is starting to be written in lots of books. There's no link > > to FreeBSD. No logical step for someone. If they have DOS, then > > it's logical to get win31. if win31, then win95. If linux, then > > redhat. perhaps if redhat, then FreeBSD <grin>. Greg Lehey's book > > is a good start. It references FreeBSD specifically. There needs to > > be more to get popular. O'Reilly would be a good place to try to > > drum up support, perhaps. > > The reason for this is that FreeBSD wasn't created from scratch like > Linux. Any book on 4.4BSD applies almost directly to FreeBSD, and > there are a lot of papers on different parts of BSD Unix. They just > don't have 'FreeBSD' written on them. > > -Dan Nelson > "Genesys" on #FreeBSD > dnelson@emsphone.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >-- End of excerpt from Dan Nelson Compared to the books on Linux the 4.4BSD books are way over the head of Joe User. Greg Lehey's book is a gem, and that is the kind of thing that is needed. Something to get people beyond the idea that UNIX is hard to do. It is not Windblows but not rocket science either. >From the new user point of view a hand hold like Matt Welsh's Running Linux is what needs to be done. Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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