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Date:      Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:59:53 +0000
From:      "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak@execpc.com>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Pat Lynch <lynch@rush.net>
Cc:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jasone@canonware.com, smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com
Subject:   Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and  multiple copyright holders)
Message-ID:  <980712035953.ZM14961@darkstar.connect.com>
In-Reply-To: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> "Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and  multiple copyright holders)" (Jul 12, 12:49pm)
References:  <199807110349.VAA28411@lariat.lariat.org>  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980711003329.1108G-100000@bytor.rush.net>  <19980711142500.C23241@freebie.lemis.com>  <grog@lemis.com>  <980712031453.ZM14755@darkstar.connect.com>  <19980712124913.R23241@freebie.lemis.com>

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On Jul 12, 12:49pm, Greg Lehey wrote:
> Subject: Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and  mult
> On Sunday, 12 July 1998 at  3:14:53 +0000, Frank Pawlak wrote:
> > On Jul 11,  2:25pm, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >> Subject: Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and  mult
> >> On Saturday, 11 July 1998 at  0:34:56 -0400, Pat Lynch wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, Brett Glass wrote:
> >>>> Interestingly, the Microsoft Windows 95 implementations of a few TCP/IP
> >>>> utilities are said to have Berkeley copyright notices in the code, which
> >>>> means they're probably derived from FreeBSD utilities. Is Microsoft
giving
> >>>> credit to the developers? If it isn't, it may be violating the
> >>>> Berkeley-style license and thus could be the target of a copyright
> >>>> lawsuit.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hmmm. Now there's an idea. Anyone care to research this?
> >>>
> >>> I talked to a guy from Apple, and they use alot of BSD derived code in
Mac
> >>> OS X Server (Rhapsody 1.0) and they said they do not have to distribute
> >>> code, just include UCB's copyright notice
> >>
> >> That's correct.
> >>
> >>> and make the code available on request....
> >>
> >> No, there's no obligation to make the code available on request.
> >>
> >>> now MS *might* do this if we asked (unlikely, but hey, worth a try)
> >>
> >> It would certainly be worth a try.
> >
> > God Greg, why would you ever want Micros*@#t code?  I am sure on you worst
days
> > you write better code by accident than they do on purpose. ;-)
>
> I think we're misunderstanding each other.  I was suggesting that
> somebody (not me :-) should try to get Microslop to adhere to the
> license conditions and declare that their software includes
> Berkeley-derived programs.
>
> Greg
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>-- End of excerpt from Greg Lehey

I am pulling your leg as we Yanks say.  I know your intent, just playing with
your words.

Regards,
Frank

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