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Date:      Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:29:55 -0400
From:      Chuck Youse <cyouse@cybersites.com>
To:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        chuckr@glue.umd.edu
Subject:   Re: gdb 4.17
Message-ID:  <99040516311000.17621@ns1.cybersites.com>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9904051607000.380-100000@picnic.mat.net>

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Actually, you make a valid point.  I'll keep my mouth shut until I actually
have something of substance in hand.

Chuck

On Mon, 05 Apr 1999, Chuck Robey wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Chuck Youse wrote:
> 
> > I'll have to put my vote in here too.  Please include alternative
> > architecture support.  I ordered an eval NetWinder the other day,
> > and will be launching a FreeBSD port shortly thereafter.  The "net
> > appliance" wave is great -- the fact that Linux is really the only
> > choice thus far is not so great.
> > 
> > Can't wait to have a rack full of FreeBSD NetWinders ...
> 
> I hear this a lot, but it's a little hard to believe, then there's never
> any code.  It's fine when it's your hobby, but you guys are asking
> everyone to take in code, which you could very easily add yourselves on
> your own hook.  I know it's fun, and I've got my own hobby things hidden
> around here that haven't all gotten as far as I'd hoped, but I don't ask
> everyone to pay the freight for them, either, so I feel justified.
> 
> I hate to be a part-pooper.  Is it not true that you can add, on your
> own machine, all the bits you want for your projects on your own?  And,
> also, that just the moment your project starts to show even the teeniest
> bit of life, that *at that point* the code could be added to FreeBSD?
> 
> It's starting to seem that merely the vaguest wish that a FreeBSD port
> might be nice, is enough to qualify for including all the support code.
> I don't want to place the too high, but how about the possibility of
> placing the bar just a small step higher?
> 
> Maybe you could suggest some rules on where to set the bar?  Something
> you feel would be fair to you, fair to the FreeBSDers who don't want
> FreeBSD to get too overweight, and also easy to quantify, so we avoid
> arguments in the future.
> 
> > Chuck
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 05 Apr 1999, Robert Swindells wrote:
> > > Warner Losh wrote:
> > > >In message <Pine.BSF.4.10.9903270752280.25868-100000@picnic.mat.net> Chuck Robey writes:
> > > >: You know what you're doing, but I want to suggest that perhaps you want
> > > >: to run that archs part past Warner, who recently (boy, I hope it was
> > > >: Warner, I think it was) added the MIPS stuff into the tree, and is
> > > >: pretty strongly in favor of making cross-compilation possible.
> > > 
> > > >Yes.  I added support to our binutils to generate mips binaries.  I
> > > >think that if other groups want their port in the tree, that should be
> > > >the first step, with the second making egcs work for the port.  I hope
> > > >to have that done in the next couple of weeks.  The only other two
> > > >architectures that I think there'd be support for would be sparc and
> > > >arm.
> > > 
> > > I would vote for including sparc and arm as well.
> > > 
> > > I'm getting a SparcStation next month and want to get either a
> > > SA1100/SA1101 evaluation board or a Chaltech motherboard for
> > > work.
> > > 
> > > Robert Swindells
> > > 
> > > 
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> > Chuck Youse 
> > Director of Systems
> > cyouse@cybersites.com
> > 
> > 
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