Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 10:14:02 +1000 From: Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net> To: Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS... Message-ID: <A7928311-8F51-4C72-839C-C9C2BA62C66E@sorbs.net> In-Reply-To: <576857a5-a5ab-eeb8-2391-992159d9c4f2@denninger.net> References: <30506b3d-64fb-b327-94ae-d9da522f3a48@sorbs.net> <CAOtMX2gf3AZr1-QOX_6yYQoqE-H%2B8MjOWc=eK1tcwt5M3dCzdw@mail.gmail.com> <56833732-2945-4BD3-95A6-7AF55AB87674@sorbs.net> <3d0f6436-f3d7-6fee-ed81-a24d44223f2f@netfence.it> <17B373DA-4AFC-4D25-B776-0D0DED98B320@sorbs.net> <70fac2fe3f23f85dd442d93ffea368e1@ultra-secure.de> <70C87D93-D1F9-458E-9723-19F9777E6F12@sorbs.net> <CAGMYy3tYqvrKgk2c==WTwrH03uTN1xQifPRNxXccMsRE1spaRA@mail.gmail.com> <5ED8BADE-7B2C-4B73-93BC-70739911C5E3@sorbs.net> <d0118f7e-7cfc-8bf1-308c-823bce088039@denninger.net> <2e4941bf-999a-7f16-f4fe-1a520f2187c0@sorbs.net> <CAOtMX2gOwwZuGft2vPpR-LmTpMVRy6hM_dYy9cNiw%2Bg1kDYpXg@mail.gmail.com> <34539589-162B-4891-A68F-88F879B59650@sorbs.net> <CAOtMX2iB7xJszO8nT_KU%2BrFuSkTyiraMHddz1fVooe23bEZguA@mail.gmail.com> <576857a5-a5ab-eeb8-2391-992159d9c4f2@denninger.net>
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Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ Sent from my iPad > On 01 May 2019, at 01:15, Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> wrote: >=20 >=20 > IMHO non-ECC memory systems are ok for personal desktop and laptop > machines where loss of stored data requiring a restore is acceptable > (assuming you have a reasonable backup paradigm for same) but not for > servers and *especially* not for ZFS storage. I don't like the price of > ECC memory and I really don't like Intel's practices when it comes to > only enabling ECC RAM on their "server" class line of CPUs either but it > is what it is. Pay up for the machines where it matters. And the irony is the FreeBSD policy to default to zfs on new installs using t= he complete drive.. even when there is only one disk available and regardles= s of the cpu or ram class... with one usb stick I have around here it attem= pted to use zfs on one of my laptops. Damned if you do, damned if you don=E2=80=99t comes to mind. Michelle=
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