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Date:      Fri, 02 Mar 2018 12:13:37 -0330
From:      "Jonathan Anderson" <jonathan@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Lars Engels" <lme@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        "Joe Maloney" <jmaloney@ixsystems.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: OpenRC 0.35 for FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <BE852FF1-A856-4913-93CA-3F7F67DEB855@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20180302083756.GH34685@e.0x20.net>
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On 2 Mar 2018, at 5:07, Lars Engels wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 08:02:23PM -0500, Joe Maloney wrote:
>> [...]
>> Why OpenRC?  The licensing is right, and it's a way of adding modern
>> features to service management without reinventing the wheel.  That's
>> my sales pitch.
>
> Hm, that does not convince me. FreeBSD's rc is also BSD licensed and 
> did
> not reinvent any wheel.
> Could you maybe give some comparison between OpenRC and our rc? What
> does OpenRC better?

In addition to asking that question (which is a good one), I think that 
we need to understand the differences among the various 
permissively-licensed init/inetd replacements. Personally I think that 
the time to replace rc is drawing near, but there are a number of 
options that I've heard of vying for consideration:

  - finit
  - jobd (is this still a thing?)
  - nosh
  - OpenRC
  - runit

... not to mention more out-there ideas like launchd.

These decisions are never purely technical (as it's a matter of 
"technically sound" + "someone is willing to do the work"), but I for 
one wouldn't want to switch something as fundamental as the rc system 
without having a broad conversation about the merits of the various 
options and coming to some kind of rough consensus. Also, of course, I 
have an interest in choosing an init system that can play nicely with 
sandboxing services, but that's just one consideration among many.


Jon
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Jonathan Anderson
jonathan@FreeBSD.org



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