Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 13:45:13 +0100 From: Mohammad Noureldin <mohammad@thelightbird.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Call to delay EOL of 11.x -> Re: OS to replace FreeBSD Message-ID: <CAAQ96DwosgKxnbU=itPRWfmAjhzHcoSbRonq8_B24=xAo9MrxA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20210320083808.00000cb1@seibercom.net> References: <NGCSlp5NzhdwJNGCUlpzqu@videotron.ca> <5743CB5D-338C-4609-8E89-396440926CEC@videotron.ca> <20210319110001.00000bf8@seibercom.net> <4602cbad-bf26-18d1-83e6-cba9627787d8@johnea.net> <90FEC704-1764-43E7-BEFA-C9481CF14714@kreme.com> <CAAQ96DyS5HOxkE77eoCNPo6O4mEWahhg-PWY=y8M_vdU_kpuMQ@mail.gmail.com> <20210320083808.00000cb1@seibercom.net>
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Hi Jerry, On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 13:38 Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net> wrote: > On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 12:30:15 +0100, Mohammad Noureldin stated: > >Hi, > > > >On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 10:00 @lbutlr <kremels@kreme.com> wrote: > > > >> On 19 Mar 2021, at 10:10, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: > >> > To anyone who has read the bug report, this is clearly a serious > >> regression issue on certain USB (probably 3) host controller > >> hardware. > >> > >> I've read the bug report and all the replies and it is clearly a > >> flaw in the controller. It is providing an invalid ID. > >> > > > >If that's the case, I am curious how other Unix-Like Operating Systems > >manage to work on the same HW ? > > There are a number of possibilities. > > 1) They have better programmers that can handle abnormalities. > > 2) They realize that there are always going to be flaws in software > and hardware and are smart enough to work around it. > > This is of course assuming that the actual problem is a defective > controller that every other OS can handle correctly. If, and this is > assuming that is correct, then why doesn't FreeBSD just code what the > defective controller is allegedly sending and accept it? > > The simple fact the the code worked in versions prior to 12.x makes > this excuse that the controlled is defective highly suspect. > Hi Jerry, I do understand your frustrations, but if you allow me, it is not a reason to attack the FreeBSD community and it's developers. Let's please focus on facts and possible solutions. As stated in this thread (and another one), did you have time to try any of the proposed tests ? Looking forward to your reply > -- > Jerry > > >
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