Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:19:47 +0100 From: Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org> To: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysutils/cfs Message-ID: <CADLo838dMd5=TjRF5ffiaPH7o0%2BpeWgaqbQqEfDb3EP-n4ec8A@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201109052146.p85Lkous037023@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <4E651DCF.30605@FreeBSD.org> <201109052146.p85Lkous037023@fire.js.berklix.net>
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On 5 September 2011 22:46, Julian H. Stacey <jhs@berklix.com> wrote: > Matthias Andree <mandree@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> So either Kostik, or you, or someone else steps up to maintain the port >> at least to the extent that the known security bugs and reported bugs >> get fixed, or to hell the port goes. > > Recent un-professional threats to throw out ports at un-necessarily > short notice, with half baked assessments based on flakey challenged > send-prs (viz eg all of procmail diskcheckd & cfs) have been divisive, > un-professional, & get FreeBSD a bad name. I don't actually think they've been divisive -- it's been policy for years. > The clumsy short notice threats to delete were not > stopped by senior ports/ colleagues, so they're part culpable > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(=3D to blame (nod to plain English request on another thr= ead :-)). I don't call four weeks for software with a security vulnerability short notice. We count a maintainer timeout as half that. > Probably other people are afraid to criticise the ports masters > especially when a ports leader accused an innocent of whining, > when he (Mikhail) was just observing tech merits. For clarification, I am neither a ports master nor a leader, just a developer. Mikail is in fact a developer just like me, and in no way is he afraid of me-- we have discussed and fixed similar issues in the past, where he has kindly stepped up and worked with upstream to find a new maintainer. My problem with 'whining' (perhaps a less emotional response from me would have been better) was the sheer number of people stepping up and refusing to provide any fixes, just criticising me for wanting to remove something. It's just not constructive. > FreeBSD ports is not the personal toy of the leadership, but > held in trust on behalf of those who send in code & fixes. > Mature professionalism & peer control is required. =A0Time heads[s] rolle= d. Julian, you have sent some excellent patches to me in the past. You have the skills, please use them to repair the problems, or suggest an alternative bit of software. Patches gratefully received (this is a volunteer effort after all....) Chris
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