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Date:      Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:23:35 -0700
From:      Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: shells/bash port, add a knob which symlinks to /bin/bash ?
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Hi,

I could live with this solution of additional port outside of the main
bash port, which creates the symlink and updates /etc/shells.

One other thing I am seeing is that many, many shell scripts are written
assuming "#!/bin/bash".
Forcing all upstream script writers to switch to "#!/usr/bin/env bash", or
to convert their scripts to "#!/bin/sh" and remove all bash-specific
behaviors, is getting harder and harder,
since many people are exposed to MacOS X and Linux on desktops.

--
Craig



On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> wrote:

> The correct thing is to make a port/pkg that installs the symlink and
> /etc/shells this for the user.
>
> There is no need for changes to 'base' nor do we need a change to the
> system port.
>
> -Alfred
>
>
> On 9/12/14 2:40 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 02:12:45PM -0700, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> In the last 3 jobs that I have worked at, there have been
>>> a mix of Linux machines and FreeBSD machines.
>>> When using an NIS or LDAP environment where
>>> there is a single login across multiple machines, it is useful to
>>> have a single shell setting.
>>>
>>> Since Linux and MacOS X have "/bin/bash" as the shell,
>>> in order to get the FreeBSD boxes to play in this environment,
>>> I have seen admins do the following on FreeBSD setups:
>>>     ln -s /usr/local/bin/bash /bin/bash
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>>     ln /usr/local/bin/bash /bin/bash
>>>
>>> and then make sure that /etc/shells as:
>>> /usr/local/bin/bash
>>> /bin/bash
>>>
>>> Can we add an optional knob (turned off by default) which creates this
>>> symlink
>>> and updates /etc/shells?
>>>
>>> This would help with interoperability of FreeBSD hosts in environments
>>> mixed
>>> with Linux and MacOS X.
>>>
>>>  Please no, no and no!
>>
>> We are fighting for a very long time to prevent the ports to pollute base.
>>
>> We have added the shebangfix USES to be able to catch with up with
>> cleanup this
>> properly as well as a qa test to discover it automatically.
>>
>> no interpreters at all have a symlink in base but perl and this one is
>> going to
>> be removed.
>>
>> If you want interoperability just use /usr/bin/env bash as a shebang. Btw
>> you
>> cannot get interoprability with OS-X in there because the bash they do
>> provide
>> is the last GPL-2 recent bash have many incompatiblities with this old
>> version.
>>
>> regards,
>> Bapt
>>
>
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