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Date:      Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:46:58 +0100
From:      David Demelier <demelier.david@gmail.com>
To:        marino@freebsd.org
Cc:        "ports@FreeBSD.org" <ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing
Message-ID:  <CAO%2BPfDfV6qdnNMgfrMDj=QumP4yc%2BRWUop_iNybTomObVwaAnA@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <52B0D149.5020308@marino.st>
References:  <52B0D149.5020308@marino.st>

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2013/12/17 John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st>:
> Over the months I've seen several ports users copy a failure log and
> mail it to ports@, usually without even saying "hello".  I've tried to
> discourage that behavior but other members of this mail list encourage
> this method of bypassing writing PRs.  One user even proudly boasted
> that sending email to ports@ is faster than writing a PR so of course he
> was going to do that instead.
>
> If this kind of post is acceptable to the rest of the people here, and
> I'm alone in not only finding it very rude, but also making the volume
> of ports@ too high, then please tell me that the problem is with me.
>
> If nothing is going to change, I am going to unsubscribe from ports@
> list.  The gcc developers on gcc@gcc.gnu.org always tell a poster when a
> post in appropriate for that list and as a result and as a result the
> posters usually only make a mistake once.  I'd like to see something
> closer to that, but if the list isn't going to be policed then it's too
> noisy for me.
>
> John

I agree on some points. However, sometimes users asks why it does not
compile because it can come from their installations. It's quite true,
a port "should" compile if not it should be marked as BROKEN. I
personally prefer to ask to the list when it does not compiles because
it can comes from me.

For instance I asked for virtualbox because I didn't see any other
complaint nor PRs and since it compiles from my system and not
poudriere I thought I did something wrong. And for that purpose I
think that we should not spam the GNATS where problems can appear at
the user side first.

But for me, I often starts my mails by Hello :-).

Regards,

-- 
Demelier David



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