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Date:      Thu, 15 Nov 2001 00:43:01 -0700
From:      "Charles Burns" <burnscharlesn@hotmail.com>
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Some h/w recommendations please...
Message-ID:  <F234vv5VuWivMjZMx2f00006e86@hotmail.com>

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>Indeed this such questions have been asked before.  Alas, an archive
>search did not give quite what I need, so here goes...
>
>I would like to build a client box powerful enough for development work;
>including app development using GUI frameworks, web stuff including
>server side scripting, etc.  This would also be my fun machine.
>
>Here are some of the recommendations I am after:
>
>CPU: P4's have come down in price: a 1.5Ghz is around CAD$230.  Of course

You really don't need the latest and greatest CPU. A P3 or fast Celeron 
would work fine. I do _NOT_ recommend the Pentium4 at all. In most 
applications, the higher end Pentium3s are faster. The reasons for this have 
to do with design decisions made when designing the P4, optimizing it for 
high clockspeeds rather than good real world performance.

Clockspeed does not equal real world speed.

>a P3 is much cheaper and a Celeron is even more so.

These would all work. I would really recommend an AMD AthlonXP over the 
Pentium3 and an AMD Duron over the Celeron. Both AMD parts are faster in 
real-world performance at a similar price or clockspeed than the Intel 
counterparts.
There are many references to this on the web. Here are a few articles from 
particularly prestigious hardware review websites:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1554
http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q4/011031/index.html

As an added bonus, AMD chips are cheaper (though compared to the P3, the 
motherboards are more expensive--note the TOTAL system price) and AMD 
systems use DDR memory extensively, compared to the P4's more expensive and 
higher latency Rambus and its incredibly slow SDR RAM.
Note: SDR = Single Data Rate, a phrase coined to differentiate between 
"Double Data Rate" (DDR) RAM. SDR is the most commonly used RAM now, and 
isn't necessarily slow, but the P4 was designed with high bandwidth in mind 
and the newer, more affordable P4 motherboards that employ SDR RAM are 
essentially castrating a chip that many say already lacks gonads. (I 
apologize for the rather crude wording)

>RAM: I can definitely afford 256Mb and possibly 512Mb, I think going to
>a 1Gb would be a stretch.

You can get good, quality memory from Crucial, a division of Micron, at 
www.crucial.com

>Motherboard: not at all sure here: have heard good things about ASUS

ASUS is one of the top motherboard manufacturers. They made their reputation 
both on producing stable motherboards when many were "rushed" and crash 
prone, and by making large OEM deals to sell many boards. Other good 
companies that generally make excellent quality modern boards include MSI 
(Microstar), ABit, Tyan, and Gigabyte--among others.

>Video: again not sure here

Depends on what you plan to do. From what you described above, 3D 
acceleration is not a top priority. Matrox makes excellent quality video 
cards that have a great picture quality (they use very good quality DACs, 
something many manufacturers skimp on to save costs) and support very high 
resolutions without getting blurry or unresponsive.
ATI also makes good 2D cards.
If you get a card made by just about any other manufacturer, be sure to read 
reviews of the card that mention the 2D image quality. (most reviews do 
not). There does not seem to be a predictable correlation between good 
picture quality and price/manufacturer/model.

>Monitor: I have heard good reviews about some Samsung models, again not
>sure

While, in general, I think Sony products are junk--they make very good 
monitors. Most companies do anymore. I do not know much about monitors, but 
an uncle of mine in the movie special effects biz recommends Sony, Hitachi 
(who recently announced that they would stop making them), and one other 
whom I cannot remember. I have never used a Samsung monitor.

>In terms of the HD, CDRW/DVD ROM, etc.  I am okay with.
>
>So, if you have a few moments I would appreciate your input.  I want to
>limit my spending to around CAD$1500, maybe maxing out to CAD$2000 with
>a large monitor, etc.

Going from 19" to 21" monitor has an unproportionally large price increase. 
For a programming workstation, I would almost say it is necessary. As a 
developer in Phoenix, AZ a while back, I often wondered how anyone could 
possibly get by without 2 21" monitors. (Now if only they would give some of 
them to me, to replace my aging 19")

Just my $0.01

Charles Burns

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