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Date:      Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:02:10 +0200
From:      "Patrick O'Reilly" <patrick@mip.co.za>
To:        "Nils Holland" <nils@tisys.org>
Cc:        "FreeBSD Question List" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Softupdates
Message-ID:  <NDBBIMKICMDGDMNOOCAIOENHDPAA.patrick@mip.co.za>
In-Reply-To: <20011126144141.A6950-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net>

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> From: nils@jodie.ncptiddische.net [mailto:nils@jodie.ncptiddische.net]On
> Behalf Of Nils Holland
> Sent: 26 November 2001 15:51
>
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Patrick O'Reilly wrote:
>
> > I've started using softupdates on a new server. Wow!!!
> >
> > Question: Is it safe to use softupdates on ALL disks?  I have a nagging
> > recollection that someone once said it should NOT be used on /.
>
> Without doubt, softupdates makes it likely that you would lose more data
> in case of a power failure or (which is very rare under FreeBSD) a system
> crash. There is actually no technical reason why softupdates should not be
> enabled on /. It is only a recommendation that someone may have given, and
> it's your job to decide if you want to follow that recommendation or not.
>
> On my own systems, I have softupdates enabled for everything, including /.
> There have not been any problems so far, while performance has obviously
> increased compared to softupdates turned off. In order to protect myself
> from the increased chance of data loss, I keep regular backups, which is a
> good idea anyway.
>
> One more thing that happens in conjunction with softupdates is the
> following: If you have softupdates turned on for /usr, have a look at df
> -h before you empty /usr/obj (or any other big directory) the next time.
> Right after the directory has been emptied, do df -h again. Then wait a
> minute and do even one more df -h. You will notice that the updating of
> the free space on your filesystems gets delayed with softupdates turned
> on. This may mean that under heavy file creation activities, your
> filesystem may already be full before it's actually visible that it's
> full, i.e. before the accountig information have been updated. However, I
> don't think that this should keep you from turning softupdated on for /.
>
> All in all I think you can safely turn softupdates on for /.
>
> Greetings
> Nils
>

Nils,

thanks for that explanation - that's pretty much the way I understood it -
but it is good to have confirmation.

Regards,
Patrick.


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