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Date:      Tue, 21 Apr 1998 00:24:00 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
To:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   next stages in devfs
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.980420235954.20470C-100000@current1.whistle.com>

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THere are a few stages that need to be taken for devfs at this point.
Some of them need discussion:

removable media: 
  how do we detect that they have changed?
  this is ok for SCSI, as the first access after a change will
have the usual effect.. (annoying but safe).
but there is no way to know that the floppy has changed (is there?,
I heard recently that there is actually a way to tell this under AT or
newer machines (that's everything with a 386 or greater).
does anyone have any info on this?

Maybe FreeBSD could do what some other vendors do and have a constant
probe (non activating) going on all detected drives (once per few seconds)
I know some people hate the idea but it is one solution.
Win95 does this. (how it notices new CDs)

Joerg, do you have any thoughts as to how I could better integrate the
floppy (you being an expert there).
What I have done works but its probing at bootup (with
annoying error messages due to lack of media) needs work
(should a floppy drive look for sub-partitions at all?)
should it try work out what media is in the drive and
only show one device? Maybe a control program similar to 'mt'
might be a better way of handling density. (doesn't fdformat do that?
hmmm) 

* The LS120  driver hasn't been integrated.. can someone who has one
	let me know so I can co-ordinate that..
* I have not written a bad144 layer. how important is that these days?
* There needs to be a handler for extended DOS partitions.
	I need a tester for that too.. :-)

What is a good naming scheme for extended partitions?
an extended partition in sd0s1 would start sd0s1x1 as a suggestion
with further logical drives as sd0s1x2 sd0s1x3 etc.
Is that reasonable? The naming order is also up for grabs
because theoretically there could be 4 per layer..
I'd resist calling them sd0s1s1 and sd0s1s1s1, sd0s1s2s1 etc,
as their actual layout on the disk would suggest.








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