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Date:      Tue, 14 Apr 1998 03:46:32 +0100 (BST)
From:      Stephen Roome <steve@visint.co.uk>
To:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ps segfaults since I overclocked. and worries. 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980414030756.17673E-100000@dylan>
In-Reply-To: <199804101947.MAA00847@dingo.cdrom.com>

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On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Mike Smith wrote:
> > There is some mention of this in /sys/pci/ide_pci.c, I
> 
> This is a timing issue related to conformance with the various IDE 
> standards.

Do you or anyone else know where I can get a copy of the IDE standards,
I should probably have already read them before I even asked.

> > am 100% certain that the hardware I have is performing fine at these
> > speeds,
> You have an observed aberration, yet you are "100% certain"?  Who are 
> you kidding?

I see your point. Someone replied earlier with the incredibly sensible
suggestion that I should recompile my ps binary. Worked a treat! So, the
hardware was fine after all, I'd just not got the software in proper
order. Wasn't kidding anyone, I just hadn't made myself clear.

> > Does the following mean that some new PC's are not going to work properly?
> > And that FreeBSD just won't support them ?
> 
> No.  It means that you are expected to run the parts involved (the 
> VIA571 and Intel PIIXn) at their rated speeds.  If you correctly 
> configure your system, this is what will happen.

It was probably worth mentioning a long time ago that this isn't an Intel
chipset based board: 

ide_pci0: <VIA 82C586x (Apollo) Bus-master IDE controller> rev 0x06 on
pci0.7.1

Hypothetically :

If I purchase a 6x86 that is supposed to run at 188Mhz, and hence a bus
speed of 75Mhz (and run it on this board - an FIC PA2007) does this mean
that the frequency the IDE devices are clocked at is greater than 30 or
33Mhz ? 

If so, then would a correctly configured system still work as you say? As
this isn't what the comment in the code implies to me.

If not, then I think I realise whats going on, but don't see how one would
overclock the IDE devices (the code implies that it's possible).

If I've got something wrong then please could someone explain it to me. I
just wanted to know how/why it works or doesn't.

P.S. I'm talking about a hypothetical system here, which isnt overclocked. 

Thanks,

	Steve

Steve Roome - Vision Interactive Ltd.
Tel:+44(0)117 9730597 Home:+44(0)976 241342
WWW: http://dylan.visint.co.uk/


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