Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 00:38:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jan B. Koum " <jkb@best.com> To: Chris Coleman <chris@bb.cc.wa.us> Cc: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Advocates, speak up! (re: just something to say) Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980704003708.27195B-100000@shell6.ba.best.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.94.980704002254.23865C-100000@bb.cc.wa.us>
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Not according to the mail we got: (why would someone lie anyway?) Begin quoting ========== >From jb@www4.nugate.com Sat Jul 4 00:36:58 1998 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:08:42 -0700 From: Jordan Blum <jb@www4.nugate.com> To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Official Movie Sites Using FreeBSD and Apache Hello: We are a local ISP located in Hollywood, CA. We currently host *all* of Twentieth Century Fox's official movie sites using the Apache server. Our most recent launch was the official X-Files movie site which is racking up more than 3 million hits and over 50MB of data transfer per day. Pretty amazing for free software:-) Thanks for all of the awesome work. Here is a short list of sites: xfilesmovie.com alien-resurrection.com anya.com bulworth.com drdolittle.com volcano.com foxmovies.com etc. etc. Jordan Blum Global Internet Solutions http://www.gisolutions.com PH 213.993.3700 Ext. 24 FAX 213.993.3738 End quoting ========= -- Yan Jan Koum jkb@best.com | "Turn up the lights; I don't want www.FreeBSD.org -- The Power to Serve | to go home in the dark." ---------------------------------------+----------------------------------- ICMP: What happens when you hack into a military network and they catch you. On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Chris Coleman wrote: >Those are soon to be FreeBSD, but they run Apache. :-) > >Christopher J. Coleman (whyareyou@lookingforme.com) >Computer Support Analyst I (509)-762-6341 >FreeBSD Book Project: http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/ > >On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Jan B. Koum wrote: > >> >> And also >> >> xfilesmovie.com >> alien-resurrection.com >> anya.com >> bulworth.com >> drdolittle.com >> volcano.com >> foxmovies.com >> >> -- Yan >> >> Jan Koum jkb@best.com | "Turn up the lights; I don't want >> www.FreeBSD.org -- The Power to Serve | to go home in the dark." >> ---------------------------------------+----------------------------------- >> ICMP: What happens when you hack into a military network and they catch you. >> >> On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Chris Coleman wrote: >> >> > >> >FreeBSD in Hollywood >> > Check out these FreeBSD/Apache run web sites: >> > www.volcano.com www.romeoandjuliet.com www.speed2-cruisecontrol.com >> > These are run by www.gisolutions.com >> > >> >Christopher J. Coleman (whyareyou@lookingforme.com) >> >Computer Support Analyst I (509)-762-6341 >> >FreeBSD Book Project: http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/ >> > >> >On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Jan B. Koum wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Here is my list of companies which would appeal to suit wearing >> >> droids. Lets add to it and make it biger: >> >> >> >> www.yahoo.com >> >> www.hotmail.com >> >> www.ebay.com >> >> www.best.com >> >> www.whistle.com >> >> www.pluris.com >> >> www.linkexchange.com >> >> >> >> If you have a 4 cpu PPro SMP machine with 1Gig of RAM sittig on >> >> the T3 serving a lot of traffic it won't make it on the list. We need >> >> companies which actually make money.. and A LOT of money (Yahoo, best, >> >> etc) from using FreeBSD. >> >> >> >> -- Yan >> >> >> >> Jan Koum jkb@best.com | "Turn up the lights; I don't want >> >> www.FreeBSD.org -- The Power to Serve | to go home in the dark." >> >> ---------------------------------------+----------------------------------- >> >> ICMP: What happens when you hack into a military network and they catch you. >> >> >> >> On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Wes Peters wrote: >> >> >> >> >My hidden microphone recorded Jan B. Koum (jkb@best.com) saying: >> >> > >> >> >% >> >> >% Hi all, >> >> >% >> >> >% I just wanted to say something here since this list has been quite >> >> >% lately. Basically, many of you already know this, but anyway. >> >> >% Whenever I have to convince someone who is not very technical why >> >> >% they should use FreeBSD, I usually try not to bore them with how great our >> >> >% vm is, or why is it better to have centralized and hence better controlled >> >> >% code. I usually tell people something like this: >> >> >% "Look, here is an example: yahoo. Their stock is skyrocketing and >> >> >% they are doing excellent. Yes, they are using FreeBSD. They have in house >> >> >% support for it, but still, they must know what they are doing - their >> >> >% whole operation is FreeBSD based. Another example is Hotmail. Even though >> >> >% they got bought by MS, they are still using FreeBSD on the front end to >> >> >% run their servers since NT couldn't' handle the load. Want another >> >> >% example? Take a look at Best Internet -- they jut filed for IPO". >> >> >% Something in the lines of the above paragraph usually gets a >> >> >% message through to the suits that to have successful company you don't >> >> >% need NT or Solaris. You just need to have people with a clue. But that is >> >> >% another subject. >> >> > >> >> >Frank Pawlak called me yesterday to chat about what is happening, and >> >> >what isn't, in FreeBSD-Advocacy. As we talked, we decided success >> >> >stories like the above are *exactly* what we need to convince business >> >> >people (i.e. "suits") that FreeBSD is a suitable choice for *their* >> >> >business. >> >> > >> >> >Managers may not be the smartest people in the world -- if they were, >> >> >they'd be kernel VM developers -- but they are extremely risk averse. >> >> >In other words, they don't want to stick their necks out.. In order >> >> >for them to say yes to using FreeBSD, they want to see two things: >> >> > >> >> >1) A business case. How will using FreeBSD improve their bottom line, >> >> > versus say NT or Linux on a server, or Linux, VxWorks, QNX, LynxOS, >> >> > etc. in an embedded system? >> >> > >> >> >2) A success story (or 20). They want to make sure they're NOT breaking >> >> > new ground; that is "risk taking," which is severely punished in most >> >> > (US, at least) companies. >> >> > >> >> >Frank and I agreed that an outline for a prototypical success story would >> >> >be helpful to this group, and an EXAMPLE success story would be even more >> >> >helpful. Since I volunteered to write one a while ago, he *encouraged* >> >> >me to get on with it. ;^) >> >> > >> >> >I'll be doing that this weekend, as long as my life doesn't intrude. >> >> >(See below). >> >> > >> >> >Please, folks, if you have any contributions to make in this discussion, >> >> >hop in now. Take the initiative like Frank did - find another Advocate, >> >> >or someone who should be an Advocate, call him or her on the phone, send >> >> >direct email. >> >> > >> >> >% Anyway, happy 4th to those who celebrate (I don't, I just enjoy >> >> >% the day off) and lets make some noise on this list. >> >> > >> >> >*I* spent the afternoon riding a steam train with my family, including my >> >> >two-year-old daughter, who walked up and down the train several times going "choo >> >> >choo choo." She charmed the other passengers nearly as much as she charmed >> >> >me; they would make whistle sounds "woo woo" as we passed. We also got to >> >> >meet Karl Malone, of the Utah Jazz NBA (pro basketball) team; he had rented >> >> >the caboose for a family outing. >> >> > >> >> >We learned a bit of American history, too: the rail route for this train, >> >> >through Provo Canyon in north-central Utah, was first surveyed by the US Army >> >> >Corps of Engineers as a possible route for the transcontinental railroad in >> >> >1839, by a young engineering officer named Jefferson Davis. Mr. Davis was >> >> >later the first (and only) president of the Confederate States of America, >> >> >near whose capitol I was born, as was my father and older brother. >> >> > >> >> >Happy Birthday, America! >> >> > >> >> >-- >> >> > "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" >> >> > >> >> >Wes Peters Softweyr LLC >> >> >http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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