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Date:      Sat, 5 Sep 1998 14:37:17 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu>
To:        Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no>
Cc:        Andre Oppermann <oppermann@pipeline.ch>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: HEADS UP: 3.0 enters BETA status in 12 days!
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.00.9809051433100.21019-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <19980905201544.20375@follo.net>

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On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Eivind Eklund wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 07:01:02PM +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote:
> > I know that but I meant the boxes I use for my ISP operations. That is
> > commercial usage. (but not packaging and selling).
> 
> You're actually allowed to use the code there, but of course it would
> be nice to pay for it :-)
> 
> I'd suggest mailing mckusick@mkusick.com about it - I know he can
> handle credit cards and small amounts, and I suspect he just haven't
> thought about anybody wanting to do small-scale donations for the soft
> updates code.  If enough people do this, we might get fsck-free
> filesystems faster than we thought :-)

I just checked Kirk's posts about it, and Andre falls into a hole
between where Kirk did and didn't specify.

He said private, non-coomercial was free.

He said companies that package it and sell it embedded should pay, and
that included ISPs, but there the example was ISPs who put a machine at
a customer's site.

As far as ISPs using it themselves, it's unclear.  Kirk gave an example
of someone at work using on their workstation, and he said that was
free.  I'd guess Eivind's right, you'd have to check it with Kirk
McKusick.

> 
> Eivind.
> 
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