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Date:      Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:37:46 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: How much do we need the all-singing, all-dancing devfs? 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.10007251333250.16927-100000@semuta.feral.com>
In-Reply-To: <13949.964555205@critter.freebsd.dk>

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> >> handled.
> >
> >For devices that have been so labelled, yes, and that the label in question
> >can be written to the device media (or stored in the device). This means that
> >you have an import step. Not the worst thing in the world, but it does indeed
> >restrict usage and sharing on a SAN- you can't rewrite the 50 NT volume labels
> >on the SAN to find a FreeBSD identifier. 
> 
> Ahh, but if they are NT volumes, the are unlikely to be UFS filesystems,
> and in that case I'm sure we would simply adopt the NT labels, no ?

What if they're 'no' labels? You can do

	newfs -t ufs da0 SIZE

right? You don't *need* to have a label....


> Maybe the solution here is that each device and indeed partition can
> have multiple labels, and any one of those are good enough for /etc/fstab ?

What I want is labels. But also what I want is a property that doesn't depend
on writing anything on the device media itself.

It's stretching it a bit, but not too far, to say I want to have cd9660
persistently addressable volumes. I may not know, from session to session, the
contents actual ISO volume label. And I can't write anything to it. But the
device itself has a persistent property of (VPD info Drive Serial number, or
WWN in the Fibre Channel case (say)). Why can't I choose to track that
particular device (part of one of those huge Sanyo CD changers, say...) by the
non-label persistent identifier and not have to worry about the bus address
changes?

-matt




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