Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:00:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Zepeda <garbanzo@hooked.net> To: "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com> Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, current <current@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: newbus and modem(s) Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9904180949320.281-100000@zippy.dyn.ml.org> In-Reply-To: <371A0B93.527905D5@newsguy.com>
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On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > I think CAM is a very bad example. We *still* don't have all the > drivers we had, and that includes at least one reasonably requested > driver. Is that an offer to write the missing drivers? > On the other hand, I don't see we losing anything with newbus, which > is quite a feat given the extent of the changes. Moreover, I have > seen very few problems reported. Changing the compiler to egcs seems > to have produced more waves, in fact. Plug and Play for at least the sio driver, perhaps just pnp in general for drivers that were moved to the newbus stuff. Is there any documentation explaining what exactly was changed? Sure, egcs created problems, but at least the general public was warned that this was going to be merged soon. But the kernel worked, and C programs worked usually. > > Well, why not make ext2fs the default fs just to shake things up? It's > > one thing to expect panics and soon, but it's another thing to import code > > that wasn't ready. > > It seems to work on my computer. Why do you say it isn't ready? A > reality check seems to be in order. It would seem you are peeved > because some of the very few gliches affected you. Why would I say it wasn't ready? Because outside of core (apparently), nobody was warned/told that this was going to be committed in a few days/hours/minutes. Glitches? What about the sbxvi driver? The apm driver? Sure, I'm annoyed about one of the glitches affecting me, but I just think if this code had been aired more publically before merging, all of these problems could have been easily avoided. And then what about newconfig? To me this just adds more truth to the whole /. argument that *BSD promotes a closed development model. - alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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