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Date:      Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:30:42 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Doug <Doug@gorean.org>
To:        "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com>
Cc:        Robert Nordier <rnordier@nordier.com>, MIHIRA Yoshiro <sanpei@sanpei.org>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: comconsole
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9907131323240.17025-100000@dt054n86.san.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <378B46DF.544A502F@newsguy.com>

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On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:

> Doug wrote:
> > 
> [about boot -P]
> >         Hrrm... it works fine in /boot/loader.rc on -current, maybe it
> > doesn't work in -stable. My apologies if so.
> 
> If it works on -current, is by some magic trick. :-) 

	Yes, errr... it turned out that I had not deleted my /boot.config
file after all. I was going to follow up to this thread and clear up my
error, but I couldn't find it. Thanks for responding and giving me a
chance to mea culpa. 

> >         Agreed, however there are two issues here. First, the man pages
> > all say that /boot.config is deprecated. Also, what I'd *really* like to
> > do is get a 'boot -P' in as early as possible, then still have the
> > autoboot option in loader. As far as I can see, that's just not possible,
> > although I'd love to be proven wrong.
> 
> Options (as far as loader goes):
> 
> load kernel -h
> or
> set console=comconsole
> 
> Both will set up boot through the serial console, without
> interfering with normal working of autoboot.

	Ok, but my (very imperfect) understanding of the -h option to boot
is that it will not send any boot messages to the "real" console (plugged
in keyboard and monitor)? We sometimes need to plug one in, so -P (probe
keyboard and then send the boot messages where they belong) is what I need
to do. I'm sure I've got something else wrong here though....

> A -P in /boot.config is
> prefered, though, for the reasons Nordier gave.

	Ok, then someone ought to fix the man page that says that
/boot.config is deprecated. I think it's loader.conf, or loader. 
 
> >         Wow.... where were you last week when I asked for a list like
> > this. :-/  Could you add one more detail to this list, namely what config
> > files get executed when in this schedule? It would be really helpful to
> > me, and I'm sure others. I've read the man pages till I'm going loopy on
> > them and it's sinking in very slowly, but not fully there yet.
> 
> Patches to the man pages would be welcomed.

	If I had even a glimmer of understanding, I would do just that,
but honestly the way all of these different elements interact is still a
mystery. I have managed to slap enough things around to get it to do
what I want to do, but I still don't feel like I understand what's
happening or why. I do appreciate you taking the time to help though.

Doug
-- 
On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only
nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter
what it does.
                -- Will Rogers



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