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Date:      Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:40:42 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>
To:        Anthony Kimball <alk@pobox.com>
Cc:        phk@critter.freebsd.dk, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: swap-related problems 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9904141635210.18456-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <14100.62842.127882.239452@avalon.east>

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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Anthony Kimball wrote:

> Quoth Poul-Henning Kamp on Wed, 14 April:
> :
> : 1. Demonstrate the need.
> 
> Well, it's only needed if you want to be able to reliably execute ANSI 
> C code according to spec.  I personally don't care.  I'd be surprised
> if core didn't though.  I would suspect that it would be deemed worthy
> of someone's p2 queue, at least.

I can't understand this.  Make software that causes a major performance
loss, and loses *bigtime* in memory allocation, just so the one guy to
complain *at all* can not lose sleep over something that has causes no
problems at all with any ANSI code in a properly sized system.

The complainant could not notice a problem in any program that didn't
seriously over-allocate memory in the first place.  His program is far
more likely to work in our present paradigm than in the one he wishes
everyone to use.  I don't think he understands, at all, the global
effects of his requests; he has blinders on, and is looking at one
program, only, in a otherwise unloaded system.

This is supposed to be important enough to hit someone's work queue?  No
wonder *you* won't do it.


> 
> : 2. Implement it
> : 
> : 3. Send patches.
> 
> And I certainly don't care enough to do that!-)
> 
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