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Date:      Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:52:15 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>
To:        "Kurt D. Zeilenga" <Kurt@OpenLDAP.Org>
Cc:        "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net>
Subject:   Re: laying down tags
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9906202248590.47432-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990620185538.009714e0@localhost>

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On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Kurt D. Zeilenga wrote:

> Tags can span time, span branches, and subsets of the repository.
> A tag may not represent a bulk commit.  Tags are associated with
> specific revisions of files, not some arbitary date.
> 
> Assuming that the tag represents a bulk commit over a subtree
> of a single branch of the repository, it may be possible to
> use a date specifier instead.  However, you need to know the
> exact date required for the operation.  On a busy repository,
> you may have to resort to logs to determine what date to
> use.  Use of date specifiers, especially those gleamed off
> of local clocks, are error prone.
> 
> You should take advantage of the power of CVS, use tags!
> As far as disk space, disk space is cheap.  Time isn't.
> 
> I, for one, would love to see more CVS branches and tag use
> in FreeBSD.  I would love to see committer using private
> branches.  It's much easier for me to test developments
> if I can just cvs checkout the work in progress.  I look
> forward to the day that I can 'rm /usr/bin/patch'.
> 
> (note: patch is a lovely, useful tool; but updating
> source via patches when you have CVS is arcane).

Well, reading over this, it appears (though it's not clear) that you
agree that dates can do the job of tags.  Since we keep full logs, and
the clock is the one on freefall, so dependencies on local clocks are
not important, it falls to your argument about disk space.  Do you know
how many hundreds of kilobytes the last tag cost, or the present size of
your archive?  I don't know the actual size myself, I just know it takes
quite a long time to download it all, so a megabyte wouldn't surprise
me, every tag.

I won't take it any longer tho, I don't seem to get any support on this.

> 
> Kurt
> 
> 
> 

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