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Date:      Tue, 18 Jul 2000 20:50:57 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To:        j mckitrick <jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Color ls
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007182042370.56461-100000@freefall.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20000719044049.A52681@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>

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On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, j mckitrick wrote:

> > Oh, this is just ludicrous. "ls -G" as multimedia? Please get a sense of
> > perspective.
> 
> That's my point.

No, your point was this:

> it's hard to say we are forward looking and have decent multimedia
> ability when we can't easily get 'ls' to show color.

Anyone who thinks "multimedia ability" is in any way tied to the ability
to show a directory listing using terminal colours is either stupid, or
grossly ignorant of how computers work.

Or perhaps we should add ls -S which plays ANSI music corresponding to the
type of file it lists so we can have true "ls multimedia support". Would
blinking characters correspond to "animation"? :-)

> if i had trouble getting color to work on cons25 or even an xterm, i
> wouldn't be especially optimistic about something advanced, like playing
> mpegs, or even sound.  I spent 2 months getting sound and my zip drive to
> work.  I only stuck with it because BSD is more reliable.  When i finally
> solved it, i was almost ready to go back to linux.  I was lucky.  And so i
> am contributing to EasyBSD to try to make it easier for others like me.

Well, all I can say is that I think most people don't find it that hard to
get sound working.

> > > It's time to sell out.  Colorls isn't THAT big of a deal if it makes people
> > > happy.  Adding it will make more people happy than leaving it out will.
> > 
> > "Adding it"? Okay, so you *are* out of touch :-)
> 
> I meant 'fixing it', if that is the right choice of words.

ls -G works fine.

> To sum it all up, i get frustrated when 'progress' is alluded to as being a
> crutch for 'lusers'.  Computers are a tool to make life easier.  Why the
> hell does liking colors (which help the brain organize information better)
> warrant being labeled as a luser?

This isn't my argument with you..I called you on a dubious attempt to link
colours in the output of ls(1) with system multimedia support, where none
exists.

Kris

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