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Date:      Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:41:38 +0300 (IDT)
From:      Nadav Eiron <nadav@cs.technion.ac.il>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
Cc:        Mark Mayo <mark@vmunix.com>, kris@airnet.net, David Shanes <dshanes@personalogic.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" 
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.3.95-heb-2.07.980412113059.25087A-100000@csd>
In-Reply-To: <12130.892266950@time.cdrom.com>

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On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> These are great points - you want to write up a paper on "getting
> FreeBSD into academic environments" and I'll print it in the
> newsletter?  Seriously, the points you've made are too useful to see
> just vanish into the mailing list archives..
> 
> 						Jordan
> 

Our CS department here at the Technion, for several reasons, is going to
distribute CDs to students starting the next academic year. We currently
have roughly 1200 undergrads in the department, and the plan calls for
this figure to double in the next two years. The CD is intended for the
students to use at home instead of swamping the department's overloaded
machines.  However, Linux is very strong here, and I could not persuade
the faculty to use FreeBSD for the purpose. Their main points were the
better availability of user-level docs, and the better support students
will get from other students that already know Linux. However, all is not
lost (I don't think they made any practical steps towards creating the
CD). In the process, I also converted two labs to FreeBSD (after Sun
suddenly wanted another $10000 for Solaris source licenses, it wasn't very
hard). Yet, even these labs are under constant pressure to use NT... 

Any docs on why FreeBSD would be good for Academia will make a difference
in such situations. What is missing, IMHO, is a list of institutions using
FreeBSD, both for teaching and research as well as a list of major
research operations that are carried out using [Free|Open|Net]BSD.  Having
links on www.freebsd.org to web pages for courses being taught on FreeBSD
would be just great. It seems that for the purpose of handing out CDs to
students, nobody is interested at how stable the OS is for running servers
:-(

Nadav



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