Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 17:37:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington <nicole@nmhtech.com> To: "Jan B. Koum" <jkb@best.com> Cc: parker@Yahoo-inc.com, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, Ben Manes <anarchy@crl.com> Subject: Re: [svlug] *sigh* (fwd) Message-ID: <XFMail.990506173744.nicole@nmhtech.com> In-Reply-To: <19990506100852.A22781@best.com>
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On 06-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Jan B. Koum wrote: > Derek is a local PITA. Good thing he has no voice and even himself > is forced to run FreeBSD on his desktop. Hehe. I love Yahoo. ;) >=20 > Yes, it was my idea of going with Linux for oracle. I'd much rather > see that happen, then oracle on NT. >=20 > -- Yan Hi Yan Uh... Like Oracle does run on FreeBSD.... Nicole >=20 > On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 09:57:35AM -0700, Ben Manes <anarchy@crl.com> wro= te: >>=20 >> might interest a few of you... >>=20 >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:17:10 -0700 >> From: Derek J. Balling <dredd@megacity.org> >> To: svlug@svlug.org >> Subject: [svlug] *sigh* >>=20 >> OK, examples of why/where Linux FAILS in the real world. >>=20 >> I work for a Large Web Company. (read the headers, do the math). We are = a >> FreeBSD shop. We are installing Oracle. There is no Oracle for FreeBSD. >> Derek suggests Linux. Derek receives the usual sighs and groans in >> anticipation of the usual BSD<->Linux flame-war that occurs between myse= lf >> and Jan (our security guy, who ALSO happens to be >> security-officer@freebsd.org so I'm told). >>=20 >> Issue # 1: Get the DPT controller working. >>=20 >> Motherboard has SCSI built onboard but nothing attached to it. In PCI0 i= s a >> spiffy DPT3334 dual-channel SCSI controller. Great, use the EATA-DMA >> driver and away we go. >>=20 >> Except that for some reason Linux doesn't SEE the DPT controller unless = we >> completely disable onboard NCR driver. Never mind that maybe our origina= l >> intent was to boot off the NCR and let the DPT handle the RAID system fo= r >> Oracle. Linux won't even touch the DPT until we tell the BIOS to pretend >> that the NCR doesn't exist. >>=20 >>=20 >> Issue #2: Choose your preference -- SMP or the ability to USE the box >>=20 >> The person who did the install (before I got there) installed Red Hat >> 5.2... which is all well and good except that RH5.2 out of the box doesn= 't >> know squat about SMP. Considering all the "advances" between 5.2 and 6.0= , >> silly me says "well, just upgrade to 6.0 for the SMP support and everyth= ing >> will be great." >>=20 >> So now, after all is said and done, I have a choice -- reinstall 5.2 and >> not have SMP support, or have SMP support and a complete inability to >> compile basic simple tools like "ssh". =20 >>=20 >> No, I cannot just use the RPM for ssh. (is there even one? certainly not >> from RH)=20 >>=20 >> Is there ANY QA being done by RH before they release their code? I would >> think the inability to freakin compile would be something that they MIGH= T >> consider checking? It's not just SSH from what I can tell by reading on >> Deja News but other minor things like BIND, Kerberos, etc. >>=20 >> Any suggestions on how I should get this box operational TODAY using >> something other than NT would be greatly appreciated. But from my >> employer's perspective, Linux's second-chance-at-a-first-impression came >> and went (the first being years ago when we compared BSD/Linux and chose >> BSD) and I don't see it getting a third shot after this debacle. >>=20 >> D >>=20 >> -- >> echo "unsubscribe svlug" | mail majordomo@svlug.org >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ to unsubscribe >> see http://www.svlug.org/mdstuff/lists.shtml for posting guidelines. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message |\ __ /| (`\ =20 | o_o |__ ) ) =20 // \\ =20 nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- =20 - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - - Strong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - =20 - I'm not ADD - I'm just Multithreaded - - Microsoft: What bug would you like today? - ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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