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Date:      Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:37:24 +0200
From:      Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
To:        Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>
Cc:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Advice on how to straighten out a crappy ISP
Message-ID:  <a06001203bb16361647ca@[10.0.1.4]>
In-Reply-To: <3EF083B6.8070902@potentialtech.com>
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At 11:22 AM -0400 2003/06/18, Bill Moran wrote:

>  Unfortunately, no, there is nobody else.  This is a VERY old 
>neighborhood, and
>  the high-quality ISP that I would like to use (city-net) can't get DSL into
>  my neighborhood because the phone lines haven't been upgrade in 30 years (not
>  exagerating ... sometimes the line quality is so bad I can't send faxes).
>  Nobody else can get DSL in here either, and only Adelphia has cable.  Pulsnet
>  is the only one providing wireless, and I refuse to go back them 
>(last I checked,
>  they still hadn't corrected their DNS)  I haven't checked satellite 
>yet, could
>  be possible.

	The best solution may be to set up your own neighborhood co-op 
ISP.  Get together with the other people in the area, and offer to 
help provide Internet access to them.  Even if you can't get SDSL, 
you should be able to get a T-1 or fractional T-1, which you could 
then share with your neighbors via 802.11b or 802.11g.

	You could then look at additional options for high-bandwidth (but 
high latency) downstream access such as satellite (with asymmetric 
routing via your T-1/Frac. T-1), or other alternative additional 
feeds.


	I'd be willing to bet that once there was an option with real 
competition in the area, things with all the other providers would 
suddenly and mysteriously improve.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
     -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.

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