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Date:      Thu, 23 May 2019 19:10:47 -0500
From:      Jason Bacon <bacon4000@gmail.com>
To:        Francis Little <oggy@farscape.co.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Mac G5 X11 performance
Message-ID:  <e95a4021-ee14-7cf6-2ef8-0af7d6a4156a@gmail.com>
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Netsurf works fine, but unfortunately depends on a legacy libutf8proc, 
which conflicts with the more modern utf8proc required by many other 
ports (including subversion).

All firefox dependencies build ("make depends" runs clean), so we're 
very close.

BTW, there are ~27,000 binary packages for ppc64, ~31,000 for amd64.  
Not bad, and that number will jump when a few key ports like qt5-core 
are fixed.

On 2019-05-23 14:02, Francis Little wrote:
> I find WindowMaker fairly responsive.
>
> I've not had a lot of luck with a web browser yet, Midori builds and 
> comes up but cannot load webpages for some reason.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 23 May 2019, 19:25 Jason Bacon, <bacon4000@gmail.com 
> <mailto:bacon4000@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     This is not a very important issue, but thought I'd bring in up in
>     case
>     there's a simple solution.
>
>     I have an iMac G5, used mainly for port testing, but I've found that
>     it's very close to being a usable desktop system (running SLiM login
>     manager and LXDE as other mainstream desktop environments don't
>     currently build).  All it would need is a few more key ports fixed
>     (e.g.
>     firefox or chromium, qt5-*) and improved X11 performance.
>
>     X11 performance is slow to the point where a dragged window won't
>     even
>     keep up with the mouse.
>
>     Chipset and Xorg info is below.
>
>     Loading radeonkms causes a complete system freeze.
>
>     I haven't found anything on the freebsd-ppc pages or elsewhere to
>     help.
>
>     If anyone knows of any ways to improve the situation, I'd appreciate
>     hearing them.  If they're not too hackish, I would add support to
>     sysutils/desktop-installer so others with PowerPC Macs can configure
>     them with minimal effort.
>
>     vgapci0@pci0:0:16:0:    class=0x030000 card=0x41501002
>     chip=0x41501002
>     rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
>          vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]'
>          device     = 'RV350 [Radeon 9550/9600/X1050 Series]'
>          class      = display
>          subclass   = VGA
>
>     [    66.665]
>     X.Org X Server 1.18.4
>     Release Date: 2016-07-19
>     [    66.665] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
>     [    66.665] Build Operating System: FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p3 powerpc
>     [    66.666] Current Operating System: FreeBSD imacg5.acadix.biz
>     <http://imacg5.acadix.biz>;
>     12.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE r341666 GENERIC powerpc
>     [    66.667] Build Date: 01 May 2019  12:53:13AM
>     [    66.667]
>     [    66.667] Current version of pixman: 0.34.0
>     [    66.667]     Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
>          to make sure that you have the latest version.
>     [    66.667] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==)
>     default
>     setting,
>          (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
>          (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
>     [    66.667] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu May 23
>     12:59:10 2019
>     [    66.790] (==) Using system config directory
>     "/usr/local/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
>     [    66.834] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
>     [    66.834] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
>     [    66.834] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
>     [    66.834] (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
>     [    66.835] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen
>     Section".
>          Using a default monitor configuration.
>     [    66.835] (==) Automatically adding devices
>     [    66.835] (==) Automatically enabling devices
>     [    66.835] (==) Not automatically adding GPU devices
>     [    66.835] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1fffff
>     [    66.921] (==) FontPath set to:
>          /usr/local/share/fonts/misc/,
>          /usr/local/share/fonts/TTF/,
>          /usr/local/share/fonts/OTF/,
>          /usr/local/share/fonts/Type1/,
>          /usr/local/share/fonts/100dpi/,
>          /usr/local/share/fonts/75dpi/
>     [    66.921] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
>     [    66.921] (II) The server relies on devd to provide the list of
>     input
>     devices.
>          If no devices become available, reconfigure devd or disable
>     AutoAddDevices.
>     [    66.921] (II) Loader magic: 0x1023d968
>     [    66.921] (II) Module ABI versions:
>     [    66.921]     X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
>     [    66.921]     X.Org Video Driver: 20.0
>     [    66.922]     X.Org XInput driver : 22.1
>     [    66.922]     X.Org Server Extension : 9.0
>     [    66.922] (WW) xf86EnableIO -1
>     [    66.922] (II) xf86EnableIO: ffffffff
>     [    66.922] (WW) Can't map IO space!
>     [    66.922] (--) PCI: (0:0:16:0) 1002:4150:1002:4150 rev 0, Mem @
>     0x98000000/134217728, 0x90000000/65536, I/O @ 0x00000400/256, BIOS @
>     0x????????/65536
>     [    66.923] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
>     [    66.945] (II) Loading
>     /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
>     [    67.207] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>     [    67.207]     compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.0.0
>     [    67.207]     ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 9.0
>     [    67.208] (==) AIGLX enabled
>     [    67.208] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 0
>     [    67.209] (==) Matched scfb as autoconfigured driver 1
>     [    67.209] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
>     [    67.209] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
>     [    67.209] (II) Loading
>     /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
>     [    67.222] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>     [    67.222]     compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.18.4
>     [    67.222]     Module class: X.Org Video Driver
>     [    67.222]     ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
>     [    67.222] (II) LoadModule: "scfb"
>     [    67.222] (II) Loading
>     /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/scfb_drv.so
>     [    67.232] (II) Module scfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>     [    67.232]     compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 0.0.4
>     [    67.232]     ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
>     [    67.232] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel
>     Drivers: kms
>     [    67.232] (II) scfb: driver for wsdisplay framebuffer: scfb
>     [    67.233] (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version
>     8589934592.0)
>     [    67.233] (++) using VT number 9
>
>     [    67.233] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
>     [    67.234] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
>     [    67.234] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for scfb
>     [    67.234] scfb trace: probe start
>     [    67.234] (II) scfb(0): using default device
>     [    67.234] scfb trace: probe done
>     [    67.234] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no
>     multi-card
>     support
>     [    67.234] scfb: PreInit 0
>     [    67.234] (II) scfb(0): Using: depth (32),    width (1680),
>      height
>     (1050)
>     [    67.235] (II) scfb(0): Creating default Display subsection in
>     Screen
>     section
>          "Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
>     [    67.235] (==) scfb(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32
>     [    67.235] (==) scfb(0): RGB weight 888
>     [    67.235] (==) scfb(0): Default visual is TrueColor
>     [    67.235] (==) scfb(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
>     [    67.235] (II) scfb(0): Vidmem: 7087k
>     [    67.235] (==) scfb(0): DPI set to (96, 96)
>     [    67.235] (**) scfb(0): Using "Shadow Framebuffer"
>     [    67.235] (II) Loading sub module "shadow"
>     [    67.235] (II) LoadModule: "shadow"
>     [    67.236] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libshadow.so
>     [    67.359] (II) Module shadow: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>     [    67.359]     compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.1.0
>     [    67.359]     ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
>     [    67.359] (II) Loading sub module "fb"
>     [    67.359] (II) LoadModule: "fb"
>     [    67.360] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so
>     [    67.415] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>     [    67.415]     compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.0.0
>     [    67.415]     ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
>     [    67.415] scfb: PreInit done
>     [    67.415] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting"
>     [    67.415] (II) Unloading modesetting
>     [    67.415] (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
>     [    67.416] scfb: ScfbScreenInit 0
>     [    67.416]     bitsPerPixel=32, depth=24, defaultVisual=TrueColor
>          mask: ff0000,ff00,ff, offset: 16,8,0
>     [    67.416] mmap returns: addr 0x811b4b000 len 0x6ec000, fd 6, off 0
>     [    67.416] scfb: ScfbSave 0
>     [    67.416] scfb: ScfbSave done
>     [    67.418] (==) scfb(0): Backing store enabled
>     [    67.418] scfb: ScfbScreenInit done
>     [    67.418] (==) RandR enabled
>     [    67.437] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable
>     [    67.437] (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
>     [    67.738] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
>     [    67.739] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized swrast
>     [    67.739] (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0
>     [    68.589] (II) config/devd: probing input devices...
>     [    68.589] (II) config/devd: adding input device (null)
>     (/dev/kbdmux)
>     [    68.589] (II) LoadModule: "kbd"
>     [    68.591] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so
>     [    68.609] (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>     [    68.609]     compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.9.0
>     [    68.609]     Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
>     [    68.609]     ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 22.1
>     [    68.609] (II) Using input driver 'kbd' for 'kbdmux'
>     [    68.609] (**) kbdmux: always reports core events
>     [    68.609] (**) kbdmux: always reports core events
>     [    68.609] (**) Option "Protocol" "standard"
>     [    68.609] (**) Option "XkbRules" "base"
>     [    68.609] (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
>     [    68.609] (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
>     [    68.609] (**) Option "config_info" "devd:kbdmux"
>     [    68.610] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "kbdmux"
>     (type:
>     KEYBOARD, id 6)
>     [    68.611] (II) config/devd: kbdmux is enabled, ignoring device
>     ukbd0
>     [    68.611] (II) config/devd: kbdmux is enabled, ignoring device
>     ukbd1
>     [    68.612] (II) config/devd: adding input device (null)
>     (/dev/sysmouse)
>     [    68.612] (II) LoadModule: "mouse"
>     [    68.613] (II) Loading
>     /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so
>     [    68.665] (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>     [    68.665]     compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.9.3
>     [    68.665]     Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
>     [    68.665]     ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 22.1
>     [    68.665] (II) Using input driver 'mouse' for 'sysmouse'
>     [    68.665] (**) sysmouse: always reports core events
>     [    68.665] (**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
>     [    68.665] (==) sysmouse: Protocol: "Auto"
>     [    68.666] (**) sysmouse: always reports core events
>     [    68.666] (==) sysmouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
>     [    68.666] (**) sysmouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
>     [    68.666] (**) sysmouse: Buttons: 5
>     [    68.666] (**) Option "config_info" "devd:sysmouse"
>     [    68.666] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "sysmouse"
>     (type:
>     MOUSE, id 7)
>     [    68.667] (**) sysmouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
>     [    68.667] (**) sysmouse: (accel) acceleration profile 0
>     [    68.667] (**) sysmouse: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
>     [    68.667] (**) sysmouse: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
>     [    68.667] (II) sysmouse: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0
>     [    68.667] (II) sysmouse: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse
>     [    68.668] (II) config/devd: device /dev/ums0 already opened
>     [    68.668] (II) config/devd: device /dev/ums1 already opened
>     [    68.670] scfb: SaveScreen 0
>     [    68.670] scfb: SaveScreen done
>     [   668.671] scfb: SaveScreen 0
>     [   668.672] scfb: SaveScreen done
>
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