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Date:      Sun, 4 May 1997 22:46:43 +0200
From:      Stefan Bethke <stefan@promo.de>
To:        www@freebsd.org
Cc:        John Fieber <jfieber@indiana.edu>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>, wosch@apfel.org
Subject:   Re: New Web design
Message-ID:  <l03010d00af929de10182@[194.45.188.81]>
In-Reply-To: <23203.862370725@time.cdrom.com>
References:  Your message of "Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:15:21 %2B0200."             <l03010d00af8beaad4bb1@[194.45.188.81]>

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So, after a busy weekend (drum roll):
http://www.promo.de/people/stefan/freebsd/home1/

A new home page for FreeBSD (2nd try).

Also look at the links marked with *; I have reorganized some pages quite a
bit. As always, this just a suggestion. (The navbar doesn't work yet, and
its alignment with the home page is rather incidential.)

Points for further discussion:
- What topics should the navbar contain?
- Do we want to use a map, or individual images on the navbar?
- Does this table stuff really work with most browsers?
- Inclusion of other languages into the home page and the www tree;
- Inclusion of local information into the home page and the www tree.
- Further reorganization for different audiences (first time user, experienced
  user, developer)?
- Where to put: the Source Tree, cvsweb, and alike; I think this is neither
  "documentation" nor "support"; maybe we want to add a section on "Developer
  Info"?

While providing both additional languages (read: translation of the english
pages) and local information is definitly worthwhile, it could easly grow
into a maintainance nightmare.

I would suggest the following structure. A typical FreeBSD WWW server
(including www.freebsd.org) provides one or more of:
- http://www.XX.freebsd.org/en/ the English pages (what is now /)
- http://www.XX.freebsd.org/YY/ other languages such as JP, DE, PO, or FR;
    verbose translation of English version
- http://www.XX.freebsd.org/ a link/redirect to the "preferred" language home
    page on that server)
- http://www.XX.freebsd.org/local/YY/ information local to country XX, in
    language YY

A translated version should provide tranlations for at least the Web pages,
the Handbook and FAQ being a plus.

The non-english pages are maintained by a group of native speakers, on a
server local to them. The documents are distributed through CVSup, so that
any FreeBSD Web server can provide any language version it wants.

Examples:

http://www.freebsd.org/en/ - English home page on "main" server
http://www.de.freebsd.org/fr/ - French home page on German mirror
http://www.de.freebsd.org/local/de/ - Local pages for Germany in German.
http://www.de.freebsd.org/local/en/ - Local pages for Germany in English.

Problems:
- I currently have no good idea how to integrate the cgis into this scheme.
- Most current links are broken.
- What to do if a server does not provide a certain tree.


Stefan

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