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Date:      Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:24:48 -0700
From:      "Chris Faehl" <cfaehl@cs.unm.edu>
To:        The Classiest Man Alive <ksmm@cybercom.net>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why so many steps to build new kernel? 
Message-ID:  <m0xfrlj-000386C@enterprise.cs.unm.edu>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 10 Dec 1997 10:09:49 EST." <Pine.BSI.3.95.971210100036.27436C-100000@kalypso.cybercom.net> 

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> <RANT>
> 
> Why is it that every time somebody suggests making a script or GUI utility
> to automate some boring but necessary UNIX process, all you guys who went
> to school with Dennis Richie pop out and start complaining about how the
> GUI is the greatest affront to computer science since the invention of the
> transistor? 

What I see being suggested isn't anything that will help automate
kernel config, but rather to simply replace sections with a pointy-clicky
interface. That's hardly automation. 

Anyway, the biggest reason I can come up with AGAINST GUIs for kernel 
configuration is the obscuration of the original, has-to-exist kernel
config file. That is, the config file still has to exist, so why not 
just muck about with it directly? 

Regarding GUIs as an affront to computer science - there seems to be a
sizable portion of folks who think that possession of a GUI makes a 
program great. I especially see this attitude wrt to NT - administration 
of these boxes is touted to be 'easier' because of the boatload of 
(poor) GUI chrome they've dumped on to it. Oh, please... all this does
is encourage the 'reinstall the OS when something breaks' mode of
operation, since the real guts of the damn thing are completely obscured.


> 
> </RANT>
> 
> Whew, that felt good. :-)
> 
> K.S.
> 

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