Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:57:02 -0500 From: Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu> To: Julian Stacey <jhs@berklix.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: bv@wjv.com Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked Message-ID: <p0600201fbbdeea6a2dc1@[128.113.24.47]> In-Reply-To: <200311171726.hAHHQ0Mj028252@tower.berklix.org> References: <200311171726.hAHHQ0Mj028252@tower.berklix.org>
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At 6:26 PM +0100 11/17/03, Julian Stacey wrote: > >Seconded ! Better commit an improved switch with >default = Off. The time for voting was months ago. In fact, we have been running with what-you-call an "improved" switch for the past few months, to give people a chance to work out all the issues before we made this final switch. >Richard Coleman wrote: >> But I think the time for these discussions is passed. > >current@ is only a concensus of /usr/src developers. >/usr/src & /usr/ports/ users on hackers@ ports@ isp@ >may not have seen current@'s change ? Well, "/usr/src developers" do include people who are quite aware of the other parts of the system. There are very few developers who have worked more on /usr/ports than Kris Kennaway, for instance. All the objections being voiced now were brought up back in the original debate, and since that time the "/usr/src developers" have done their best to address all those issues. Also note that this debate was open to everyone tracking freebsd-current (the mailing list), not just "/usr/src developers". I think it came up on freebsd-hackers or freebsd-arch, too. The discussion went on for multiple weeks, if not multiple months. It is not fair to pretend that this was some kind of back-room, closed-door decision. Not only that, but NetBSD has been living for awhile now with a similar change. Check the comments at http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/2002/08/News34.html for instance. That was more than a year ago, and they seemed to have survived the change. It will not be surprising if there are a few things we want to add to /rescue as we get more experience with this, but we do have good reason for making the change. If you personally are worried about the new setup, then just use the switch which gives you the previous setup. That's what the switch is for, after all. We did realize that some situations will have good reasons to use the previous setup. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu
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