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Date:      Tue, 18 Mar 2003 12:26:33 +0100
From:      des@ofug.org (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=)
To:        Ed Alley <wea@llnl.gov>
Cc:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: kern/47982: Response to Dag-Erling
Message-ID:  <xzpn0js3ogm.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>
In-Reply-To: <200303172340.h2HNeD0R001479@freefall.freebsd.org> (Ed Alley's message of "Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:40:13 -0800 (PST)")
References:  <200303172340.h2HNeD0R001479@freefall.freebsd.org>

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First some general advice: find out who you're talking to and adjust
your level of arrogance accordingly.

>  That's a silly idea. Either the FS should fly as a kernel module
>  as submitted or else forget it. A port exists in user-land NOT
>  kernel-land.

Bollocks.  There are currently at least five ports that install
loadable modules, and there have been others in the past.

>               The VFS/VNODE interface changes from RELEASE to
>  RELEASE.

That is simply not true.

>               This would mean that the port would need to be upgraded
>  for each release of FreeBSD.

Others seem to manage just fine.

>  I apologize to Andrew Tanenbaum for misspelling his name; I meant
>  no disrespect to him and I will correct the error in the appropriate
>  places. Thank-you for pointing that out to me; however, the remark
>  that you made that I want to see him dressed up as a Christmas tree,
>  seems a little desparate to me: Is that the extent of your criticism
>  of this submittal?

It's a joke.  Tannebaum (double n) is the German word for "fir tree",
the kind commonly used as Christmas tree and celebrated in song ("O
Tannenbaum, O Tannenbaum Wie treu sind deine Bl=E4tter", which is
strange because fir trees have needles, not leaves).  The melody may
be familiar to you: at least four American states use it for their
state anthem.

>  Secondly, It says in the handbook to submit large code as a PR.

To paraphrase J. R. R. Tolkien - "don't quote the handbook to me, I
wrote it".  If the handbook really says to submit large patches in
problem reports, please tell me where so I can correct it.

The authoritative text on submitting FreeBSD problem reports is:

    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/problem-reports/

If you'd read it, you'd at least know the proper way to attach a patch
to a PR.

DES
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Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org

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