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Date:      Mon, 21 Feb 2000 03:05:49 -0800 (PST)
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To:        kc5vdj@swbell.net
Cc:        dmartin@origen.com, chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Strange Spam
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0002210256050.1017-100000@freefall.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <200002211027.EAA77853@ppp-207-193-0-31.kscymo.swbell.net>

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Jim Bryant wrote:

> echelon is a great idea, but i honestly don't think the computing
> power exists to filter ALL internet traffic through a centralized
> location.

Who said anything about filtering all internet traffic? All it would take
is a few strategic taps placed in various US backbones to cover a
significant proportion of traffic. The Australian DSD (Defense Signals
Directorate) have admitted on record that they participate in echelon as
part of the UKUSA alliance..it's really quite well documented in
mainstream sources by now.

> occam's razor dictates that the entire echelon thing is just another
> commie-style recruitment tactic that right-wing extremist groups use.

Reports tabled in the european parliament argue otherwise. They're taking
it very seriously. Good references are:

http://www.cyber-rights.org/interception/stoa/interception_capabilities_2000.htm
http://www.gn.apc.org/duncan/ic2kreport.htm

Kris

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