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Date:      Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:12:53 -0800
From:      Robert Clark <res03db2@gte.net>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.freebsd.org>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
Subject:   Re: time_t not to change size on x86
Message-ID:  <20011030081253.D36195@darkstar.gte.net>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.011030073149.jhb@FreeBSD.org>; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 07:31:49AM -0800
References:  <3BDE6ED3.64DC027E@mindspring.com> <XFMail.011030073149.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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I'm curious, have any of you tried python? What are your opinions?

I could not get past the fact that if I wrote a program in Java,
I couldn't say so anywhere. All the Sun legalese put me off.

Maybe its the attitude I've developed while running such a good
OS, but I don't like playing the Sun vs MS game while I code.

Thanks, [RC]

On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 07:31:49AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote:
> 
> On 30-Oct-01 Terry Lambert wrote:
> > John Baldwin wrote:
> >> My personal peeve with C++ is that is a growth on teh side of C (although at
> >> this point it's larger than C..)  I prefer the way Java lays out code
> >> (functions defined within the class, etc.).  Unfortunately, the
> >> implemenetations of Java running around aren't the speediest unless you are
> >> running !FreeBSD. :-/  Granted, speed isn't needed for all things.
> > 
> > Java has several problems:
> 
> I still prefer it to C++'s problems. :)
> 
> > 1)    It can't do multiple inheritance
> 
> Interfaces are like multiple inheritance of pure abstract classes and are
> simpler to get right.
>  
> > 2)    You can instance classes without constructing them (the
> >       JavaMail API has a number of examples of this)
> 
> So?
> 
> > 3)    Strong typing is for weak minds
> 
> Or lazy ones. :)  I wouldn't use Java for OS hacking, but for applications,
> strong typing is more useful.
> 
> > -- Terry
> 
> -- 
> 
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