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Date:      Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:04:12 +0400
From:      "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
To:        Mikhail Teterin <mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com>
Cc:        Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, anholt@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontCyrillic Makefile distinfo ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontCyrillic/files patch-crox1c.bdf patch-crox1cb.bdf patch-crox1cbo.bdf patch-crox1co.bdf patch-crox1h.bdf patch-crox1hb.bdf patch-crox1hbo.bdf patch-crox1ho.bdf ...
Message-ID:  <20020904140410.GA30776@nagual.pp.ru>
In-Reply-To: <200209040841.45490@aldan>
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On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 08:41:45 -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote:

> I'm afraid, you did not quite understand me. I don't suggest we install koi8-u
> fonts and pretend (in fonts.dir), that they are koi8-r -- that would violate a 
> standard. What I advocate is to populate X11R6/lib/fonts/cyrillic/ with 
> koi8-u fonts instead of the koi8-r. Now, which standard does this violate?

Why instead? Just add them there. koi8-r is Cyrillic subset too, at least.

> The biggest confusion so far, has been Russian-only fonts installed as 
> Cyrillic. Strangely, it did not bother you... And yes, this problem IS 

Because they are Cyrillic subset. I appreciate any Cyrillic subset 
installed as Cyrillic, all of them, but not as replacement. I not see any 
reason for replacement, all fonts can be installed.

> Exactly. So, please, cite the standard, that is violated by Maxim's recent 
> change.

Not standards but common sense.

> There are no standards covering this aspect of port names. Most (all?) names 
> of the ports installing fonts do not specify encodings. Cyrillic never meant 
> koi8-r -- except for some ignorant people -- and was never documented as 
> such. Maxim just brought the port closer to the reasonable expectations.

Cyrillic means koi8-r, as subset.

If I'll agree with your point of view, I immediately step in and replace
koi8-u fonts with windows-1251 fonts which are Cyrillic, and you can't say 
anything.

I told you, your "replacement" idea is very very bad. Nothing should 
replace anything. All things must co-exists.

-- 
Andrey A. Chernov
http://ache.pp.ru/

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