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Date:      Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:49:21 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@highperformance.net>
To:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Course of law (was: Islam (was: Religions (was Re: helping victims  of terror)))
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0110281056510.20586-100000@server.highperformance.net>
In-Reply-To: <3BDC4D0B.C29A8F4@mindspring.com>

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On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Terry Lambert wrote:

> Yonatan Bokovza wrote:
> > In the democracies *I'm* aware of there's something called "war".
> > A good example of this will be when a one country shoots at
> > other country's civilians.
> 
> Minor correction: "military", not "civilians".  If you shoot at
> civilians, you're a terrorist.

The US engages targets that support the enemy's industrial complex to
reduce that nations war making ability.  The US does so knowing that these
industrial targets are staffed by civilians.  In this case, the US
intentionally targets civilians.

Moreover, when the US hit Japan with nuclear weapons, the US
indiscriminately killed many civilians without specifically targeting
industry.

Shall we then call the US armed forces terrorists?  If we do, then all of
the population are terrorists because the US military does not even shine
its boots without orders from civilians.  Allow me to introduce myself.  I
am Jason Wells, ESQ, BSME, Terrorist.

One of the great fallacies of modern propoganda is that there is no war.  
There are crimes against humanity and terrorism.  We do not call anyone
"the enemy."  For factions to shoot each other is termed merely
"hostilities."  But to declare war is an unacceptable "act of aggression."

Another fallacy is that all ways of life and all ideologies are equally
good.  That no one way is better than another.  Nobody wants to believe
that evil things transpire in the world.

So we get what we have in modernity.  Death and violence with no
conclusion.  With no conclusion and no stated military objective, whomever
is called a terrorist is subjective to the whims of propogandizers.  
Nothing called be called true.  No action can be called justified because
no one does evil.

I hope that the US has woke up from the relativist mindset.  I would hope
that we all would say, these people who have attacked us are not
justified.  At first blush it appears that we have taken a stand.

Then I see the annointed asking of we are any better than the enemy when
reports of innocent (whatever that means) civilians are killed are heard.  
People speaking from comfort say we had it coming for our policies.  I
fear that there will never be a conclusion to this mess.

Jason C. Wells


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