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Date:      Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:03:21 +0100
From:      Georg-W Koltermann <Georg.Koltermann@mscsoftware.com>
To:        nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams)
Cc:        Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>, absinthe@pobox.com, shanon loveridge <shanon_loveridge@yahoo.co.uk>, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: jdk1.3.1p5
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In-Reply-To: <15382.39466.681160.346406@caddis.yogotech.com>
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At Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:43:38 -0700,
Nate Williams wrote:
>=20
> > > I disagree, but we're all entitled to our own opinions.  We don't need
> > > HotSpot in order to be 'real'.
> >=20
> > Well, not to pressure this point too much further, but the reason why
> > I'm doing this in the first place is because of what I've heard in the
> > general JVM community about the need for HotSpot under the BSDs and that
> > this need is critical for their operations.
>=20
> What's wrong with OpenJIT and TYA?  HotSpot isn't the only JVM out
> there.  As a matter of fact, it isn't necessarily the fastest JVM out
> there.

Would it be a good investment of time to develop a real fast JVM for
FreeBSD, instead of reusing Suns (Hotspot) JVM like everybody else
does?

Hotspot is in active development at Sun while the classic VM was
dropped.  I'd say we should follow suit just in order to reuse their
effort and not spend time do duplicate their effort.  I'm not
technically involved with any JVM implementation, so I can't comment
on which approach is technically superior.  I am just suggesting that
we should cooperate with the path taken by other JVM
development/porting teams.

=46rom a user's perspective Hotspot vs. classic is a real difference.
Try to run an interactive tool like Together/J with a classic VM (I
use FreeBSD JDK1.3.1/green-threads with OpenJIT) and then again with
Hotspot (my colleague uses Linux with Sun's Hotspot VM).  You will
notice that working with this caliber of a Java application, and not
having Hotspot, IS A REAL PAIN.

--=20
Regards,
Georg.

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