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Date:      Fri, 08 Jun 2001 10:34:52 -0700
From:      "Jason S. Anderson" <jason.anderson@windriver.com>
To:        j mckitrick <jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
Cc:        brett@lariat.org, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@lemis.com
Subject:   Re: BSD direction/Damonnews article
Message-ID:  <5.0.2.1.2.20010608092020.02a09410@mail.wrs.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010607143457.B42170@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
References:  <20010607061351Z.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010607134347.A41764@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010607055051K.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010607140103.A42170@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010607061351Z.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>

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<disclaimer>
I'm a Wind River employee (actually the engineering manager responsible for 
Wind's FreeBSD development activities), but the comments and opinions below 
are my own. :)
</disclaimer>

First, the most direct question: What has directly changed as a result of 
the Wind/BSDi transaction? Ownership of some equipment and contractual 
relationships, the transfer of some personnel (a small percentage of the 
total FreeBSD community), and the introduction of a new corporate sponsor. 
The core concern I am hearing from reading mailing lists and whatnot seems 
to be whether Wind will help or hinder the project.

Personally, I believe that's up to you, me, Jordan, and everybody else at 
Wind River and in the community to determine. It's not something that 
either side is going to be able to independently resolve. Wind River wants 
to find ways to support and enhance FreeBSD and its value chain in a way 
that delivers returns to its own commercial efforts; the community wants to 
find ways to leverage Wind's position in various industries to gain 
visibility and capabilities. These are not mutually exclusive goals, and 
I'm confident that we'll be able to find some very creative and compelling 
new ideas on how to make that happen.

At 02:34 PM 6/7/01 +0100, j mckitrick wrote:

>What can be done to more effectively direct the volunteer effort, and who
>should take the lead in doing so?

I have some ideas about this, but I haven't been working with FreeBSD for 
very long so I'm not sure whether or not they are things that would be 
truly useful. I'm VERY interested in hearing ideas from others on some 
pragmatic things that Wind could do to support the community, but doing so 
in a way that doesn't push a corporate message down the throat of the 
technology.

One possible scenario would be for Wind River to provide some common 
infrastructure and "glue" to make it easier to publicize and coordinate 
development activities underway in FreeBSD; there may be specific 
technology areas that Wind has a strong interest in making happen and in 
those scenarios we could provide more direction and management. 
Installation and packaging technologies. Web-based development 
collaboration. Robust test automation and quality assurance capabilities.

Anyway, I just thought I'd dip my toe in the waters. You'll all undoubtedly 
see more of me in the future but we're still internally sorting out some of 
the integration details so I'm not prepared (yet) to answer many questions.

Cheers,
-Jason

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  Jason Anderson                         email: jason.anderson@windriver.com
  Manager, Platforms Operations Programs    ph: 510-749-2202
  Manager, FreeBSD Engineering             fax: 510-749-2010
  Wind River                              cell: 510-708-3588


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