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Date:      Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:48:01 -0300 (ART)
From:      Daniel Grunblatt <daniel@grunblatt.com.ar>
To:        Joe Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
Cc:        =?iso-8859-1?B?TeFyY2lvIERhdmlk?= <marciofdavid@hotmail.com>, culverk@wam.umd.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD ? What kind of OS is that ?
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.10.10106211238140.17547-100000@ambar.ofermundo.com.ar>
In-Reply-To: <20010621112855.U27505-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com>

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Please, understand the diference between kick that asshole and believe in
this project, and between everyone and our fellow ... anyway send him to
www.freebsd.org, I don't think any of us should lose time because he does
not wan't to do anything.

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Joe Clarke wrote:

> Well, I'd like to make everyone's FreeBSD experience (or lack of
> experience) a good one.  I've been using FreeBSD for 6 years now, and I
> really believe in this project.  If we start flaming everyone, we'll turn
> into another Linux users list.
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> Joe Clarke
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> On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Daniel Grunblatt wrote:
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> > Is it really usefull to answer to such an asshole? why don't you just t=
ell
> > him that freebsd sucks and he must stay as far as he can from it?
> >
> > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Joe Clarke wrote:
> >
> > > A screenshot of FreeBSD is somewhat useless.  Bring up a bash shell i=
n
> > > BeOS, and you've got a good idea.  However, like with Linux, there ar=
e
> > > many different X11 desktops (like KDE, Gnome, xfce), and window manag=
ers
> > > (afterstep, windowmaker, twm, mwm, sawfish, enlightenment, etc.).  Go=
ing
> > > to any one of their pages will show you screenshots of what those
> > > interfaces can do.
> > >
> > > Joe Clarke
> > >
> > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, [iso-8859-1] M=E1rcio David wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanx everyone for the replys.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I'll check this FreeBSD someday, when i have some free time (=
and a
> > > > free HD... dont wanna have 2 OSs in the same HD..)
> > > >
> > > > About the MacOS X, well, i had an iMac 233 and had lots of hardware
> > > > problems (most of them in my monitor ! Just after about 1 year usin=
g
> > > > it...). And Macs are REALLY expansive in my country... I can buy ab=
out 3
> > > > good pcs with the money...
> > > >
> > > > I'll still with Windows and BeOS for now...
> > > >
> > > > Just one more thing.. Can  you give me a link for some FreeBSD
> > > > screenshots ?
> > > >
> > > > Gotta go. cya.
> > > >
> > > > MD
> > > >
> > > > >To add to Ken's comments, if you want to use a really nice, and ea=
sy OS
> > > > >with FreeBSD under the covers, I recommend Mac OS X. I know you'll=
 have
> > > > >to buy new hardware for it, but it will definitely satisfy most of=
 what
> > > > >you want. The GUI comes up out of the box, networking is a snap, a=
nd
> > > > root
> > > > >is disabled ;-).
> > > > >
> > > > >While I persoanlly love FreeBSD, I'd hate to recommend it saying i=
t will
> > > > >be the OS of your dreams. If you're looking for something like Win=
dows,
> > > > >FreeBSD is probably not for you.
> > > > >
> > > > >Joe Clarke
> > > > >
> > > > >On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm using M$ Win ME right now. I tried windows 95/98/ME/2K, M=
acOS,
> > > > > > > Linux (many distributions), BeOS, and some others OSs ! hehe =
Well,
> > > > > > > looking at all those OSs, I decided to continue with my old M=
$
> > > > > > > OS........ But now I wanna something new ! Something diferent=
=2E..
> > > > not
> > > > > > > just a new stupid linux distribution that takes 5 hours to ma=
ke it
> > > > > > > work and about a month to make the damn internet work. So, i =
would
> > > > > > > like to know if FreeBSD is a DIFERENT OS, or it's just anothe=
r
> > > > > > > "Linux-like" OS. Exemple : Will i see a stupid prompt asking =
me to
> > > > > > > type "root" when i turn on my computer ? Will i have to use w=
ich
> > > > > > > Graphical interface ? (please, say it's not KDE...) Guess tha=
t's
> > > > all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK, lets answer your questions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) As for ease of use: it's not windows, if you took 5 hours to=
 get
> > > > linux
> > > > > > working, (any distribution) and a month to get the internet wor=
king,
> > > > then
> > > > > > FreeBSD will most likely be harder for you. If you want ease of=
 use
> > > > stick
> > > > > > with winblows or BeOS. Just for comparison though, once you get
> > > > everything
> > > > > > working, you'll find that you can install and configure a syste=
m in
> > > > less
> > > > > > than an hour, sometimes 30 minutes. (on my machine, that's fast=
er
> > > > than
> > > > > > windows installs, and I have only ever installed FreeBSD from t=
he
> > > > network,
> > > > > > never from CD)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) Linux-like is the wrong way to put it. FreeBSD is UNIX-based=
,
> > > > Linux is
> > > > > > a UNIX clone, so Linux is UNIX-Like, and FreeBSD is UNIX-based.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3) When you first install the machine, you will see a login pro=
mpt,
> > > > this
> > > > > > is expected behavior for any UNIX based or UNIX like operating
> > > > system, and
> > > > > > it's not stupid, it's just not windows as I said before.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 4) You can choose which Graphical Interface is installed when y=
ou're
> > > > > > installing the operating system. KDE-2, Gnome, Windowmaker, etc=
=2E..
> > > > it's up
> > > > > > to you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 5) to me it seems like your idea of a good os is one that is ea=
sy and
> > > > > > doesn't crash much. Well I've never had FreeBSD crash, and it's=
 hard
> > > > to
> > > > > > learn at first, but once you learn it, it becomes easier, and m=
ore
> > > > logical
> > > > > > than windows. (I can fix a FreeBSD problem in minutes usually, =
most
> > > > often
> > > > > > without even rebooting the machine, where my windows expert fri=
ends
> > > > often
> > > > > > fix their problems by rebooting the machine)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ken
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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