Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 02:52:51 +0800 From: "jan gestre" <freebsd.ph@gmail.com> To: Freminlins <freminlins@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, sammy sumer <sammy.sumer@gmail.com> Subject: Re: What FreeBSD users really want Message-ID: <a25afc300607221152p4e0a851di1fa92450af54c8cc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <eeef1a4c0607220833x62f0ea84u2f19db60420dfc1d@mail.gmail.com> References: <8f0d62060607220403j599c1131xfcfb38e6b18c7c6c@mail.gmail.com> <eeef1a4c0607220833x62f0ea84u2f19db60420dfc1d@mail.gmail.com>
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On 7/22/06, Freminlins <freminlins@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 22/07/06, sammy sumer <sammy.sumer@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > To Whom It May Concern: > > > > > > > 1. Reinvent the installer and interface. > > > > Fundamental thing like system installer is still phenomenally arcane. > > There > > is no excuse for FreeBSD developers not to upgrade the system installer > > and > > why not using disk imaging technology like Norton ghost or Acronis > > TrueImageinstead of the traditional installation. > > > One thing I would say is that FreeBSD installs a complete operating system > far faster than any other OS out there. This does matter to some people, > though not everyone. > > A few years ago I was new to FreeBSD (and UNIX/Linux in general) and I > went > through the installation. The only thing that caught me out was adding a > user (me) but not putting myself in the wheel group. After the > installation > completed I removed the monitor and plugged it back into my usual desktop > machine. I could SSH in but not su. It really was the only thing that > caught > me out. > > 2. Integrate a PHP shell into the core of the system. > > > > PHP is by far the most popular computing language in the world. Why not > > have a shell called PHP shell. So lots of web developers out there can > > easily create shell scripts in PHP syntax to automate and run programs > on > > FreeBSD. > > > > Who wants to learn bash or sh scripting? They are by far the least > popular > > and ugly programming language in the world. > > > > It is astounding that FreeBSD developers have not clued in to the fact > > that > > millions of backend webmasters could easily migrate and adopt FreeBSD as > > their O.S of their choice because of PHP > > > > Would that be PHP and all its associated modules from the base install? > That's big, and for many people unnecessary. Why would I need it for my > (10) > mail servers. It wouldn't serve any purpose. Also PHP "syntax" is not > consistent. Take a look here: http://tnx.nl/php. > > sh scripting is a low level "standard" across other Unices. > > The only thing I wish I had learned so much sooner was "set autolist" in > my > .cshrc. I didn't know it was there, and I have no idea why it is not in > the > default dot.cshrc file. No doubt good reasons, but I "got by" for months > before I found this out. All that time I was going "bash can do it, why > can't csh?" > > > Sammy Sumer > > > > i've done it already, thanks for the set autolist tip frem :)
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