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Date:      Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:12:44 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        Bill Fumerola <billf@mu.org>
Cc:        "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/make Makefile 
Message-ID:  <200103170812.f2H8CiQ02365@mass.dis.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:58:21 CST." <20010315175821.D362@elvis.mu.org> 

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> On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 01:55:47PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> 
> > Your mentor has does NOT give you the right to do this w/o an OK'ed by
> > the maintainer.  I think Will has been around here enough he doesn't
> > need to be considered a mentee any longer?  Or is this something you're
> > going to hold over his head forever.
> 
> Since you're going to drag this out into the open instead of privately
> mailing me: no, I don't consider Will to be outside my mentorship in the
> src/ tree.

I get the impression that I was meant to be your mentor at some point, 
Bill.  So perhaps I should just ask you, politely, to consider that the 
mentor role does *not* make your pupil an extension of yourself.

The mentor role is meant to be one of guidance and assistance, not 
overlordship, and I think you're abusing it terribly here.

David - I don't think that seniority has anything to do with it, and I 
don't think that's a valid ground for this sort of behaviour.

Will is the recognised maintainer of make(1), and ultimately this is his 
call.

-- 
... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his
rivals and unfortunately opponents also.  But not because people want
to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force
people to take different points of view.  [Dr. Fritz Todt]
           V I C T O R Y   N O T   V E N G E A N C E



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