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Date:      Sun, 1 Mar 1998 18:24:22 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
Cc:        zjhh2@etsu.edu, Mark Mayo <mark@vmunix.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jhhiggins@prodigy.net
Subject:   Re: newbies mailing list
Message-ID:  <19980301182422.45428@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <19980301181929.41719@welearn.com.au>; from Sue Blake on Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 06:19:29PM %2B1100
References:  <19980301011318.06574@vmunix.com> <Pine.BSF.3.96.980301012333.10907D-100000@localhost> <19980301175646.54027@welearn.com.au> <19980301173432.42499@freebie.lemis.com> <19980301181929.41719@welearn.com.au>

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On Sun,  1 March 1998 at 18:19:29 +1100, Sue Blake wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 05:34:32PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Sun,  1 March 1998 at 17:56:47 +1100, Sue Blake wrote:
>>>
>>> I wasn't thinking of a place to get answers. There's a great deal more to
>>> being a newbie than having questions. I was thinking more of a place to just
>>> be for a while with real peers, to let off steam and get things into
>>> perspective. One problem that will arise is people trying to answer other
>>> people's questions. That cannot be stopped, but the focus can put it into
>>> perspective.
>>
>> I think you need to say this in the charter, then.
>
> Yeah, maybe it would be more usefully presented as a newbies chat list,
> so as to avoid reliance on it for answers and to invite chat.

This sounds like a very good idea!

>>> Of course, this relates to just one idea of what a newbies' list might be.
>>
>> It'll be interesting to see what comes of it.  I think the more
>> experienced people should also be asked to shut up and not participate
>> (though they could be allowed to lurk).
>
> Hmm, I'm thinking that it's easier to communicate in a space that you own
> (as a newbie) rather than one where you're a guest, and a few too clever
> people could take that feeling away. That is, assuming it is not going to be
> primarily a place to get questions answered. Of course, there's nothing
> stopping any lurkers with good answers from sneakily replying off the list,
> just as I have been doing for some of the misunderstood newbies.
>
> If the list were for asking questions, then those who can and will answer
> questions would have yet another mailing list to monitor which might be
> asking too much. The existing -questions traffic would not be spread over
> the two lists. I predict that there's a lot more questions out there that
> never get asked.

I think this is reasonable, too.  -questions is and remains the list
for specific questions.  -newbie could be more a discussion group for
people new to FreeBSD.  It's always good to be able to distinguish the
charters, and this looks like the best distinction I've seen so far.

Greg

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