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Date:      Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:40:20 -0500
From:      "David W. Chapman Jr." <dwcjr@inethouston.net>
To:        Carl Schmidt <carl@slackerbsd.org>
Cc:        Makoto Matsushita <matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org>, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HEADS UP: Old port recompiles needed (Re: Unknown symbol "__sF")
Message-ID:  <20021014034020.GA7188@leviathan.inethouston.net>
In-Reply-To: <20021014032931.GB23539@carbon.slackerbsd.org>
References:  <3DA9D95D.C1319A72@mindspring.com> <20021013205915.GK10829@hades.hell.gr> <3DA9EA62.D337E8A0@mindspring.com> <20021014114320A.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20021014032931.GB23539@carbon.slackerbsd.org>

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On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:29:32PM -0400, Carl Schmidt wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 11:43:20AM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote:
> > tlambert2> That's 3.4 hours saved on a 28.8K modem download time,
> > tlambert2> overall...  a 14% reduction in size.
> > 
> > The percentage doesn't matter.  If ISO image is compressed, user who
> > downloads the image may de-compress that image to burn (I don't know
> > any about the burner softwares which support compressed ISO image).
> > What's happen if there is no space to make de-compressed image on a HDD?
> 
> I do not follow this.  If the user can not fit a non-compressed image
> on their drive then they certainly will not be downloading a non-
> compressed image nor a compressed image hence rendering this whole
> discussion moot for that user...it seems so to me at least.  Maybe I am
> not seeing something?

The temporary space required to do the decompression is what I am 
assuming is being reference, although I'm not sure how accurate that 
argument is.
 
> Whether we think the size is too large for dial-up or not people will
> still download it.  And 200MB is absolutely nothing compared to what
> people put up with for full-size distribution ISOs.  You could argue
> that not everyone has gzip (I would assume primarily a Windows user).
> As far as I know there is a DOS version of gzip.  This would be where
> you might need both types of images (compressed and not compressed),
> and that is something up to the snapshots people.

Winzip supports tar and gz, winrar supports bzip2

> One might argue that Mr. Lambert is simply speculating that anyone has
> a 28.8k connection anymore.  What are the odds that everyone fits this:
> 
> a: they live close enough to a provider to get broadband (see 'b'),

I did not think distance was a requirement for cable modem, but I do 
agree with your logic that not everyone has broadband.

-- 
David W. Chapman Jr.
dwcjr@inethouston.net	Raintree Network Services, Inc. <www.inethouston.net>
dwcjr@freebsd.org	FreeBSD Committer <www.FreeBSD.org>

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