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Date:      Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:47:12 -0800
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        Gregory Bond <gnb@itga.com.au>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Richard S. Conto" <rsc@merit.edu>
Subject:   Re: New cdboot ISO available
Message-ID:  <20020114154712.A14214@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>
In-Reply-To: <200201142320.KAA12369@lightning.itga.com.au>; from gnb@itga.com.au on Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 10:20:21AM %2B1100
References:  <200201142320.KAA12369@lightning.itga.com.au>

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 10:20:21AM +1100, Gregory Bond wrote:
> > Yes, but then who do you target the ISO at?  I'm trying to judge how wi=
dely
> > used the older machines are and if we should still use boot.flp on the =
ISO's=20
> > to
> > accomodate them.
>=20
> It depends on the nature and ubiquity of the "newer devices" that
> get dropped off kern.flp. If we get to the stage where even a small
> fraction of new systems aren't supported by kern.flp installs (because
> they come with RAID cards etc that are not on kern.flp) then it will
> be time to change. It's much easier for middling-old systems to boot
> using kern.flp than it is for someone (to pick a hypothetical example)
> with only a RAID controller not supported by kern.flp to hand-craft
> a floppy boot image, or do a double install (once to supported IDE
> drive, once to unsupported-by-kern.flp RAID device). Unless we want
> to get into the game of having a mix-n-match selection of kern.flp
> images! (This might be doable if we have 2 kern.flp images - one for
> "older systems" from 386-P2, one for "newer systems" from P3/Duron on,
> to pick a somewhat arbitary convention that should at least be fairly
> easy to explain to newbies.)

IMO, we crossed this line a while back when the first 10/100 Ethernet
driver was removed from kern.flp.  That's not as bad as a RAID
controler, but it's pretty lame that we don't support any random
ethernet NIC out of the box.

-- Brooks

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