Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 17:02:58 -0800 From: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Anthony Atkielski <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix Message-ID: <3CAA54C2.6EEA5839@mindspring.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020401153352.02b99760@nospam.lariat.org> <3CA8EB5F.2E91B408@mindspring.com> <1017709221.71119.5.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3CA91382.4E4E2B@mindspring.com> <1017714456.71119.20.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3CA93944.D72D6AB7@mindspring.com> <004501c1da0f$7cd67a80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20020402162112.B26122@wantadilla.lemis.com> <007001c1da81$34acc9e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20020403090836.K26122@wantadilla.lemis.com>
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Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> It's faster to do it over a 28.8 kb/s modem with Microsoft? > > > > No, it's just very hard to imagine anyone geek enough to run FreeBSD as a > > desktop having a 10-year-old modem as his connection to the Net. Don't all > > geeks have broadband by now? > > No, but that's irrelevant. You're trying to make it look as if > Microsoft is faster, and that's just plain misrepresentation. I live in Silicon Valley. I can't get DSL because I'm 200 feet too far away from the LATE, and the tarrif imposes a stiff fine for anything below the optimum speed rating for a given tarrif rate, so they are completely unwilling to try, even though the copper plant in this area is relatively new, and unlikely to have any problems even at half again the rated distance. They won't drop a DSLM into the area, even though there are 6000 apartment units in the same area, all chock-full of Oracle engineers and engineers for other big companies, whose employers would pay for their home net connection to get them to break their backs for the company every waking moment. It's amusing to see that no one is complaining about SBC buying up all the RBOc's, and reassembling The Phone Company, like the liquid terminator from Terminator II. It's a good bet that the DSLAM won't be forthcoming in this area for a long time. Cable modems are not an option, both because they suck, and because they are using them as marketing leverage to force the purchase of cable TV. It's not enough that their set top boxes are as electrically noisy as legally possible, in order to disrupt broadcast television in order to encourage more cable T.V. subscribers. Plus they won't give you a static IP, and their entire cable plant is practically one-way, because the purpose of the Internet, in their opinion, is not to act as a means of communication, it's to be the business end of the firehose that they can use to push crap content at you, hoping some of the advertising will stick. So, yeah, some of us who use FreeBSD -- some of us who were there at the beginning, before there *was* a FreeBSD -- do have slow links. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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