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Date:      Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:01:22 -0400
From:      Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>
To:        Barbish3@adelphia.net
Cc:        jonc@chen.org.nz
Subject:   Re: safe mode for kernel.old
Message-ID:  <20040731110122.44692b23.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
In-Reply-To: <MIEPLLIBMLEEABPDBIEGIECNGIAA.Barbish3@adelphia.net>
References:  <20040730162954.P1557@c3po.barnesos.net> <MIEPLLIBMLEEABPDBIEGIECNGIAA.Barbish3@adelphia.net>

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"JJB" <Barbish3@adelphia.net> wrote:

> I think you have missed some very important details. In 4.x releases
> when you do a kernel compile the system automatically renames the
> current kernel to kernel.old for you. There is also a kernel.generic
> which is always there.
> 
> In 5.x versions the whole kernel boot process was replaced with new
> method and the auto rename of the kernel no longer happens on a
> recompile and there is no kernel.generic module available.   Whoever
> added the new boot process to 5.x did real poor job of integrating
> the new pirated boot code into Freebsd.  This should be reported as
> a bug by everybody who wants the old kernel rename  process added
> back into FreeBSD.

What are you talking about?  I did a cvsup/make kernel process just a
week ago on a 5.1 machine, and the 5.2 kernel refused to work with the
network card.  Lucky for me, kernel.old was in the boot directory, and
I was able to move it back over kernel.

Yes, the process and everything is different, but the basic fallback
device is still there.

> 
> Submit Bug report.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jason
> Barnes
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 7:31 PM
> To: Jonathan Chen
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: safe mode for kernel.old
> 
> On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Jonathan Chen wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 03:50:40PM -0700, Jason Barnes wrote:
> > >
> > >     Wow -- this is weird, but when I try that the machine locks
> up
> > > right after loading the old kernel, after the little -/|\ series
> finishes.
> > > Additionally, safe mode and single-user mode are distinct.  Is
> there a
> > > boot -safe that will boot into SAFE mode?
> > >     Thanks for your help,
> >
> > Unlike Windows, there is no SAFE mode. Single user mode is about
> as
> > safe as it will get.
> 
>         Then what's the safe mode in the boot screen in 5.2.1, and
> how is
> it different than single user mode?  Thanks for your patience with
> me on
> this issue.
> 
>                                 - Jason
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Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com



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